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I don't think he is having range anxiety. He is concerned that there is something wrong with his battery and not getting the correct amount of capacity. If I owned the car, instead of leasing, I would want to make sure my batteries checked out and were able to get the full capacity that I paid for.
My Performance Stealth doesn't get anywhere near the 310 mile range but I don't do anything to try to achieve it. I never precondition, warm up while plugged in, I mash the pedal whenever I can safely, and drive with the heater on. On my Mid-Range I had before this, I bought it, not leased, so I was carefully trying to track such items to make sure my batteries were solid.
Getting ~250kw / mi averaged over the whole journey.
Well there's your "problem."Getting ~250kw / mi averaged over the whole journey.
Thank you for choosing to drive electric! After a few months you’ll forget about most of this stuff. After a few years you’ll forget about what it was like to drive a jerky, noisy, smelly and expensive gas vehicle. I recently loaned out my 8.5 yo Leaf to a neighbor while I was on a road trip. I had to really think about giving them advice, since it’s been so long. I forgot to tell them to use cruise control because it’s so easy to speed without those ICE noise clues.These have been enormously helpful replies. Thank you so much. I was trying to 'like' them, but for some reasons I can't. Thank you again!
You're driving 80% of the EPA estimate. That's a mixed cycle with less freeways (and lower speeds on them).
By the way: if you rarely drive with the state of charge out of the 20%-80% range those state of charge percentages are also not that reliable; the BMC needs to have some cycles from fairly close to 0% to farily close to 100% to calibrate itself. Not too often, since it degrades the battery faster, but if you have none of those cycles the BMC's estimate for state of charge becomes more inaccurate as well.
It's also fairly cold and these are short drives (although my gues is that in California the effect is less severe). In other words: the extrapolation is probably slightly invalid for this reason as well. The hit on range from a cold battery when starting to drive for a short ride (and the fact that you usually heat your car) is quite severe (at least below 10-15° C).
I respectfully disagree. My wife drove my SR+ from our home in South OC to Burbank one evening and although I'm supposed to have a range of 240 miles and the round trip should have been 165 miles, she had to stop at a charging station a little before midnight to get a quick charge or she wouldn't have made it home. I gotta tell ya, my wife is a 5ft 65 year old woman I don't like her having to stop anywhere in the middle of the night for any reason especially for a quick charge. She will no longer drive the 3 anywhere but to the local grocery store, she drives her ICE everywhere else (it has a range of 400+ "real" miles).Range anxiety is just dumb if you live on either coast or within a major metropolitan area. These same concerns would never exist in an ICE car - another point made to me on this forum.
I just think how BEVs are sold vs. how ICE vehicles are traditionally sold, it's an unfair comparison. I've never driven or owned an ICE vehicle where the range was "320 miles on a single tank". they provide you different numbers, based on driving, and recently added the "mixed" driving number, which was supposed to be more realistic. from there you could "guesstimate" the expected range of the tank and prepare accordingly. my tank is 16 gallons and i'm averaging 21 MPG, therefore I have 32 miles of "range" before I should think about filling up.The funny thing is, most people don't get rated range in their gas car either, they just never pay attention. And with this car it's full every day for you without stopping anywhere else, so it's more convenient than gas normally!
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I respectfully disagree. My wife drove my SR+ from our home in South OC to Burbank one evening and although I'm supposed to have a range of 240 miles and the round trip should have been 165 miles, she had to stop at a charging station a little before midnight to get a quick charge or she wouldn't have made it home. I gotta tell ya, my wife is a 5ft 65 year old woman I don't like her having to stop anywhere in the middle of the night for any reason especially for a quick charge. She will no longer drive the 3 anywhere but to the local grocery store, she drives her ICE everywhere else (it has a range of 400+ "real" miles).
So "dumb" or not, range anxiety is a real f*****g thing.
I respectfully disagree. My wife drove my SR+ from our home in South OC to Burbank one evening and although I'm supposed to have a range of 240 miles and the round trip should have been 165 miles, she had to stop at a charging station a little before midnight to get a quick charge or she wouldn't have made it home. I gotta tell ya, my wife is a 5ft 65 year old woman I don't like her having to stop anywhere in the middle of the night for any reason especially for a quick charge. She will no longer drive the 3 anywhere but to the local grocery store, she drives her ICE everywhere else (it has a range of 400+ "real" miles).
So "dumb" or not, range anxiety is a real f*****g thing.
Good point.My wife drove my SR+ from our home in South OC to Burbank one evening and although I'm supposed to have a range of 240 miles and the round trip should have been 165 miles, she had to stop at a charging station a little before midnight to get a quick charge or she wouldn't have made it home. I gotta tell ya, my wife is a 5ft 65 year old woman I don't like her having to stop anywhere in the middle of the night for any reason especially for a quick charge. She will no longer drive the 3 anywhere but to the local grocery store, she drives her ICE everywhere else (it has a range of 400+ "real" miles).
So "dumb" or not, range anxiety is a real f*****g thing.
Not sure why you would be disappointed anyway. Range seems to more than enough for your needs and you aren't paying for the electricity (I'm assuming since you charge at work) What's the problem?
True. EPA mileage and rated range numbers are seldom achieved in actual every day driving except by "range optimizing" drivers who make a goal/game out of it. No offense to range optimizers out there.
I understand your point, but as a 19 year owner of an ICE vehicle that began life with average of 16.5 mpg, and ended at 12 mpg, I respectfully disagree.Yes, but with ICE vehicles there's no concern of degradation, which is probably the root cause of this type of range anxiety (especially from people newer to EVS).
That's fascinating and I can verify. With my previous ICE car I kept a detailed fuel log. Looking at the data, my avg mpg declined from 19.0 in 2012 to 15.9 in 2019. I had never sliced the data that way, but the downward trend is definitely there.I understand your point, but as a 19 year owner of an ICE vehicle that began life with average of 16.5 mpg, and ended at 12 mpg, I respectfully disagree.
We have experienced the same average mpg degradation on all the ICE cars we have owned over the years, although generally the degradation has happened slowly over time.
What is true is that ICE mpg remains more consistent through the seasons (although it DOES vary).
ICE mpg in cold climates does NOT remain consistent.I understand your point, but as a 19 year owner of an ICE vehicle that began life with average of 16.5 mpg, and ended at 12 mpg, I respectfully disagree.
We have experienced the same average mpg degradation on all the ICE cars we have owned over the years, although generally the degradation has happened slowly over time.
What is true is that ICE mpg remains more consistent through the seasons (although it DOES vary).