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Vendor Recell Launches Groundbreaking Remanufactured Battery Packs for Model S and Model X

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May 22, 2022
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So, we think this is BIG.

Today we’re launching our groundbreaking RC+ line of remanufactured battery packs for the Model S and Model X.

Leading the RC+ lineup is our new RC 210+ battery pack. Dollar for dollar, the 210+ is our most popular battery pack to date – a commute-ready daily-driver for under $6,500. What's more, the entire pack is covered for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles. That’s pretty much unheard of. And it sure beats cutting a check for $18,000 or more down at the local SC…

Not to mention, the 210+ delivers plenty of punch: 310 kW / 415 hp power output, with the same off-the-line performance as your existing battery pack and 0-60 times under 6 seconds. Now... if you’re looking for even more performance, we also offer the 210+ Sport – identical to the 210+ but with some added punch at the top end.

Here’s a quick rundown of the entire RC+ line, as well as a the link to our website - Recell

RC 210+
A commute-ready daily-driver - dollar for dollar, this is our most popular option
  • Rated Range: 210+ Miles
  • Power: 310 KW / 415 HP
  • Energy Capacity: 64.6 kWh - 68.4 kWh
  • Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
  • Cost: $6,400 - installation included

RC 210+ Sport
A commute-ready daily-driver - identical to the RC 210+ with some added punch
  • Rated Range: 210+ Miles
  • Power: 360 KW / 480 HP
  • Energy Capacity: 64.6 kWh - 68.4 kWh
  • Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
  • Cost: $8,400 - installation included

RC 240+
A longer-range option for Model S owners who spend more time on the road
  • Rated Range: 240+ Miles
  • Power: 410 KW / 550HP
  • Energy Capacity: 74.6 kWh
  • Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
  • Cost: $9,900 - installation included

RC 250+
The ultimate in range for Model S owners in search of the open road
  • Rated Range: 250+ Miles
  • Power: 410 KW / 550HP
  • Energy Capacity: 77.4 kWh
  • Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
  • Cost: $10,900 - installation included

More on the RC+ Line..
The RC+ line is the ideal solution for every kind of driver - from the RC 210+, our most popular battery pack, to the longer-range RC 240+ and RC 250+.

Our remanufactured battery packs use only genuine Tesla parts and are based on the factory original 5.2 kWh / Type 85 and 5.6 kWh / Type 90 battery modules developed by Tesla. Installation, mounting, firmware and software updates, supercharging support, etc. are identical to the factory battery pack - the only difference between the RC+ series and a factory original is the configuration and capacity.

Certified and Tested

In addition to the over 50,000 miles of road testing that the went into the RC+ series during development, each of our remanufactured battery packs goes through a rigorous inspection, certification and testing process, equivalent to over 2,000 miles of real-world load. Failure-prone components such as the main fuse and high voltage contactors are replaced with Ludicrous-class components, and control boards and voltage sensors that don’t meet manufacturer spec are replaced as needed.

What's Covered?
The entire pack is covered for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles. In the event of a battery pack failure, a full battery pack or hardware replacement will be provided at the nearest Recell-certified Service Center.
 
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So, we think this is BIG.

Today we’re launching our groundbreaking RC+ line of remanufactured battery packs for the Model S and Model X.

Leading the RC+ lineup is our new RC 210+ battery pack. Dollar for dollar, the 210+ is our most popular battery pack to date – a commute-ready daily-driver for under $6,500. What's more, the entire pack is covered for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles. That’s pretty much unheard of. And it sure beats cutting a check for $18,000 or more down at the local SC…

Not to mention, the 210+ delivers plenty of punch: 310 kW / 415 hp power output, with the same off-the-line performance as your existing battery pack and 0-60 times under 6 seconds. Now... if you’re looking for even more performance, we also offer the 210+ Sport – identical to the 210+ but with some added punch at the top end.

Here’s a quick rundown of the entire RC+ line, as well as a the link to our website - Recell

RC 210+
A commute-ready daily-driver - dollar for dollar, this is our most popular option
  • Rated Range: 210+ Miles
  • Power: 310 KW / 415 HP
  • Energy Capacity: 64.6 kWh - 68.4 kWh
  • Cost: $6400

RC 210+ Sport
A commute-ready daily-driver - identical to the RC 210+ with some added punch
  • Rated Range: 210+ Miles
  • Power: 360 KW / 480 HP
  • Energy Capacity: 64.6 kWh - 68.4 kWh
  • Cost: $8,400

RC 240+
A longer-range option for Model S owners who spend more time on the road
  • Rated Range: 240+ Miles
  • Power: 410 KW / 550HP
  • Energy Capacity: 74.6 kWh
  • Cost: $9,900

RC 250+
The ultimate in range for Model S owners in search of the open road
  • Rated Range: 250+ Miles
  • Power: 410 KW / 550HP
  • Energy Capacity: 77.4 kWh
  • Cost: $10,900

More on the RC+ Line..
The RC+ line is the ideal solution for every kind of driver - from the RC 210+, our most popular battery pack, to the longer-range RC 240+ and RC 250+ versions.

Our remanufactured battery packs use only genuine Tesla parts and are based on the factory original 5.2 kWh / Type 85 and 5.6 kWh / Type 90 battery modules developed by Tesla. Installation, mounting, firmware and software updates, supercharging support, etc. are identical to the factory battery pack - the only difference between the RC+ and a factory original is the configuration and capacity.

Certified and Tested

In addition to the over 50,000 miles of road testing that the went into the RC+ line during development, each of our remanufactured battery packs goes through a rigorous inspection, certification and testing process, equivalent to over 2,000 miles of real-world load. Failure-prone components such as the main fuse and high voltage contactors are replaced with Ludicrous-class components, and control boards and voltage sensors that don’t meet manufacturer spec are replaced as needed.

What's Covered?
The entire pack is covered for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles. In the event of a battery pack failure, a full battery pack or hardware replacement will be provided at the nearest Recell-certified Service Center.
Thanks for the info. Do you have a list of Recell-certified Service Centers? Thx.
 

Recell

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Global Vendor
May 22, 2022
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184
Austin
Very cool, I wish we'd get something like this up here in Canadaland for when mine eventually needs it.
our founder is from Canada, so The Great White North is always on our radar. ;) we’ll be there as fast as we can pedal. :D

Nice!

Questions.

Do your prices included giving you the old battery?

Does the condition matter?

I have a 60, so the RC 210+ would be $6400, right? Would I be able to pay an extra $2800 and get the RC 240+?

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Nevermind. I saw the S 60 page.

Recell

:(

Unfortunately, because of the limited aftermarket for existing 60 kWh packs, and the fact that we don’t swap or replace modules in any of our battery packs, there's little we can do right now on the remanufacturing front for the 60's. :confused:

We do however offer full 1-to-1 replacements (subject to availability), and of course we’ll continue to work on developing a solution for the 60's - as well as the 70s and 75s as they come off warranty. Our mission from the start has been to offer affordable solutions for all our customers to keep these cars on the road, the 60's included. We'll keep y’all posted as soon as we have something. 👍
 
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Recell

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Global Vendor
May 22, 2022
87
184
Austin
How do your remanufactured packs address the water ingress vulnerabilities of the early (2012-2014) OEM packs?

Packs that arrive for processing are fully inspected, in particular the side rails and side vents - and of course the main fuse compartment is inspected, as that's pretty much Step 1 in the processing cycle. We also review data onboard the pack itself for any signs of moisture build-up - the pack itself can measure moisture content in grams. If there are any signs of water ingress, vent failure or excess moisture content the pack is fully decommissioned, and the modules inspected and tested prior to putting them into the queue for potential secondary use. (of course, any compromised modules are redirected to one of our partners so that they can be safely recycled.)

We should add that while not zero -- we have our share of rain here along the Gulf side ;) as well as just plain sloppy fuse replacements back at the SC 😖 -- water ingress has not proven to be a major issue for the packs that we process. Again, not zero, but as this point, 8-10 years in, cell/module failure is going to be the main source of pack failure. by far.
 
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Recell

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Global Vendor
May 22, 2022
87
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Austin
Re-sharing some (great) questions that have come up elsewhere.

How Do You Repair A Battery Pack? Do You Just Swap Out the Defective Battery Module, Close It Back Up And Call It Done?

Nope. Not ever. Unlike repair shops, we do not swap out or replace individual battery modules. In fact, we don't 'repair' battery packs, we produce certified remanufactured battery packs. And all our remanufactured battery packs use conjoined battery modules - that means the battery modules in our packs have always spent their lives together, sitting side-by-side and untouched, in the same battery case that they left the factory in - there's no snipping wires, no module swapping, no nip-and-tuck, not ever.

If You Replace My Battery, What Are You Replacing It With?

We only install fully tested and certified battery packs, and we use only genuine Tesla parts in all our remanufactured battery packs. All our packs are based on the original 5.2 kWh / Type 85 and 5.6 kWh / Type 90 battery modules developed by Tesla. And unlike a repair shop, we do not swap out or replace individual battery modules. All our remanufactured battery packs use conjoined battery modules (see above). There's no snipping wires, no module swapping, no nip-and-tuck, not ever.


Do You Use Salvage Cars for Battery Packs Replacements?

No, we generally avoid salvage cars that may have been in an accident or written off by an insurance company. It's not a judgment of salvage packs, most salvage packs are perfectly fine, it's just not where we source them from. Instead, our remanufactured battery packs come with clean title and use conjoined battery modules (see above). The only time we offer salvage packs to our customers is if they need a specific battery configuration that is either out of circulation - such as the older 60 kWh battery packs - or not yet available out-of-warranty - such as newer 70, 75, 90 or 100 kWh battery packs. But again that's not very common, and it's not a source for our remanufactured packs.
 
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Recell

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May 22, 2022
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Austin
even if you have free supercharging will this stay? wont tesla know its a diff battery? and can all these work in a d60(updated to d75?)

free supercharging is not impacted. provided supercharging is enabled when it comes in, we verify that supercharging works on every vehicle we deliver - in fact, we provide each of our customers with a frame-able photo of their Model S being topped up at the local supercharging station prior to delivery. 😀👍
 
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Recell

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May 22, 2022
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Re-sharing some more (great) questions that have come up elsewhere.

Will the RC+ Battery Packs Work with Either MCU1 or MCU2 Cars?

Yes, all our battery packs are MCU1 and MCU2 compatible – there’s no impact with either.


Does the Price Include Installation?

Yes, installation is included in the price.


How Much Will It Cost to Transport My Car?

Shipping will depend on your location of course, but typically it costs about $300-$500 to ship your car, up to a maximum of $995. But don't let potential transport costs scare you - even when you factor in transportation costs, a remanufactured battery pack from Recell will save you 60% or more than a replacement from Tesla. In fact, we'll cover any shipping cost above $995 - that's our guarantee! And better yet, if you arrange your shipping through us, there's no money up front, we’ll cover the initial cost of transportation and simply include it as part of your final invoice.


Can a 60 kWh Battery Be Upgraded to a RC+ series pack?

Unfortunately, because of the limited aftermarket for existing 60 kWh packs, and the fact that we don’t swap or replace modules in any of our battery packs, there's little we can do right now on the remanufacturing front for the 60's. We know that's not the answer some of you might have been hoping for, however we do offer full 1-to-1 replacements (subject to availability), and of course we’ll continue to work on developing a solution for the 60's - as well as the 70s and 75s as they come off warranty. Our mission from the start has been to offer affordable solutions for all our customers to keep these cars on the road, the 60's included. We'll keep y’all posted as soon as we have something.
 
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Maybe I'm confused. What do you do to the packs to certify them remanufactured? I still think about the way an ICE engine is remanufactured. Replace worn out and bad components in the engine with new parts. If you get a bad pack with dead cells do you replace all the modules and just reuse the case with all new cells/modules
 

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If you get a bad pack with dead cells do you replace all the modules and just reuse the case with all new cells/modules
They have already given you those answers. Especially once you take into consideration that Tesla doesn't sell modules. So there are no new cells/modules being used. (I could be wrong on that but I doubt it.)

They said they only create packs out of modules that have always lived together, so that pretty much means their only option is to remove modules that have a bad cell in them from the pack to make a smaller pack. (But if the problem is a bad BMS board, or the connection to the BMS board they can repair/replace that portion of the module.)
 

Recell

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They have already given you those answers. Especially once you take into consideration that Tesla doesn't sell modules. So there are no new cells/modules being used. (I could be wrong on that but I doubt it.)

They said they only create packs out of modules that have always lived together, so that pretty much means their only option is to remove modules that have a bad cell in them from the pack to make a smaller pack. (But if the problem is a bad BMS board, or the connection to the BMS board they can repair/replace that portion of the module.)

precisely @MP3Mike. while the remanufacturing concept @ThomasD describes is largely the same. For example, if an engine ECU fails, or say the diodes on an alternator fail, replacing a component or two, alongside some cleanup and preventive maintenance, gets things back in operation.

Same thing with a BMS (Battery Management System) board, a BMB (Battery Module Board) or a voltage sensor, you can simply replace them. Where a battery pack differs however, is that unlike a defective piston ring that that *must* be replaced in order to get the engine running again, the bricks in a battery pack don't necessarily need be replaced. In fact, Telsa is already doing this - omitting entire modules from their own reman packs.

Capacity and power output will be impacted at the margin of course, but these packs already deliver exceptional levels of power and capacity. Thus, depending on the use case (for example, commuter/daily-driver vs. longer range road warrior) there's more than enough room at the margin to make those trade-offs, on a pack-by-pack basis.

From day one our goal has been to offer an affordable replacement battery, and many of our customers are the second and third owner of their Model S, and most have just recently made the move to an EV for the first time. So a battery pack option like the RC 210+ that allows new EV owners to avoid being upside down only 12 months in on a $35K car loan is pretty much a like glass of water in the desert for them.

Of course, if you want more power, or more range? Hey, no problem, we've have those too! ;)

QED. 👍
 
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