Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

[drelec]

Not to sound negative, but if Tesla can't seem to see a way forward with the 5 and 7 seat options with their more expensive plaid, it there is little chance they're going to all of a sudden solve that problem with the LR X instead. With the smaller number of plaids sold, they probably decided to absorb the cost of giving away the "upgrade" to the 6 seat minibus version while they decide what they will do with the 5 and 7 seat LR X orders. They probably don't want to give away that many. For me, anyway, I'd want to see the 6 seat in person to see how useful it would be to me. Otherwise, a really expensive minibus isn't exactly what I had in mind when I ordered it, and probably won't want it at all in that version.

I can't argue with your logic, but I hope you are wrong. I really just want the 5 seats.

 

[golferguy]

i have just ordered a 6 seat X LR, white exterior/black interior
my question is do you guys think FSD would worth for $12k? i can still add it but am not decided as autopilot is already included without any fee
Thanks much

No rush to decide. FSD can be added later. It just had the price increase earlier this week so it won't jump up anytime soon. Best bet, try to find local Tesla owner with the FSDbeta and see where it's at. It still has a long way go. With FSD you also get:

-Auto lane change in AP (this works very well)
-Autopark (not so good)
-Smart Summon (really bad implementation)
-Navigate on AP (not so great, after it exits the highway, it typically aborts, and it is too slow on exit ramps).

There isn't any real Self Driving. You must be engaged with hands on the wheel, and/or eyeballs on the road.

But still, give it a whirl if you find someone with it. Many of us in S. Florida have the beta.

 

[RandomRefresh]

all weather

Picked up my Red/Black with 20" wheels this morning at Fremont Factory. It came with AMD Ryzen CPU.

There were 2 other Model X Plaid ready for delivery next to me (Red/Black with 22" Wheels (vin: 3296xx), White/Black with 20" wheels (vin: 3264xx).

No issues with the vehicle so far, everything is perfect. Just missing one piece in the tow hook bag.

I got the same config... any interior pics would be great!

 

[airzim]

I can't argue with your logic, but I hope you are wrong. I really just want the 5 seats.

Me too. That's what I've ordered. The 5 seats.

 

[TrevTremaine]

Picked up my Red/Black with 20" wheels this morning at Fremont Factory. It came with AMD Ryzen CPU.

There were 2 other Model X Plaid ready for delivery next to me (Red/Black with 22" Wheels (vin: 3296xx), White/Black with 20" wheels (vin: 3264xx).

No issues with the vehicle so far, everything is perfect. Just missing one piece in the tow hook bag.

Just out of curiosity, it looks like they're both raised to the highest level. Is that the case?

 

[idinsideid]

When did you order, etc?

10/29/21

 

[ironwill96]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

Sounds like you’ve got a lemon or something as a lot of what you describe isn’t consistent with others experiences. Hope you can return it since you don’t enjoy regen braking (core feature of electric vehicles you seem to hate) and many other things.

 

[idinsideid]

Just out of curiosity, it looks like they're both raised to the highest level. Is that the case?

No idea. The Red next to White was not mine, both of these were parked 2 spaces over.

 

[AMN]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

LOL, wow. Do you mind posting your VIN without the last digit?

 

[cwang089]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

I dont think you actually unlocked FSD yet as it is currently in beta. What you are using is the old autopilot stack.

Unless you are driving in winter or just mashing the pedal, your range shouldn't be that far off. Look at your energy graph to see how much more power are you using vs the rated range.

Were you climbing uphill? were you towing? did you have a bunch of passengers with full load of luggage?

As far as build quality, no defense here. Good news is, if you don't want the car, there are plenty of people willing to take it off your hands for more than you paid for it. So there are a lot of folks fitting the demographics for the X given supply and demand

 

[ERM1]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

Guessing it's his first electric vehicle.

 

[bayareaever]

I have the beta and it's getting better every update. I'm hearing the next update you don't have to touch the steering wheel anymore but the rear view camera will monitor your face to see if your paying attention.
I'd say yes if you have patience for development. it's a work in progress but in the right direction.

Source for this rumor re: next fsd update?

I would love to not have the steering wheel nag and the interior camera seems to do a pretty good job monitoring now, but with scrutiny from regulators, it’s hard to imagine them getting rid of the nag.

Of course with Tesla, it could be more like do it anyway and let the regulators scramble to figure out what to do in response.

 

[Choco]

Sounds like you’ve got a lemon or something as a lot of what you describe isn’t consistent with others experiences. Hope you can return it since you don’t enjoy regen braking (core feature of electric vehicles you seem to hate) and many other things.

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

Do you work for another electric car company? Maybe there marketing dept?

 

[muzhik]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

You have 100 miles or 3 days to return the vehicle, that's what I was told by Tesla delivery team.

 

[Ralbright]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

Pics or it didn’t happen….

 

[flippingrich]

No creep is a deal breaker. My wife also won't drive a car without creep. So I'm out with the product currently as is. The lack of a proper steering wheel, which the yoke is not given the current steering ratio, no energy graph, no folding second row seats, and no wood trim options are things I've been grappling with trying to convince myself I could live with them, but lack of creep is not something my wife is willing to live without. I personally would never use creep as it makes one peal driving impossible and ruins ultra low speed micro adjustment control, but I'm not the only driver.

So I'm obviously not canceling the order because I'm pretty sure I'll be able to sell the reservation for a pretty penny in October(my EDD). But I'm also hoping that some of these things get fixed. The software issues, like creep and energy graph, can be fixed OTA. Lack of folding 2nd row seats and the Yoke will obviously required hardware updates.

I'm hoping that by the time October rolls around that the safety compromises of the Yoke will result in the NHTSA forcing a recall.

Have a yoke on my MS and it’s nice.. only a week in but I have a feeling I won’t want to go back.. turn signals are intuitive and so are the other functions.. I get the hesitancy but drive one before you make these assumptions

 

[jbrowdy]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

I’m thinking you may have discovered all this by perusing these and Tesla’s (now read only) forums prior to the commitment. Even with all its warts, my Model x P100D was the best car I ever owned.

I agree on FSD. My opinion voiced a few hundred pages back is that it introduces unnecessary danger on the road, and is highly misleading.

That said, give the car some time. The driving experience may grow on you.

 

[bayareaever]

You have 100 miles or 3 days to return the vehicle, that's what I was told by Tesla delivery team.

That’s be nice but are you sure they weren’t referring to reporting blemishes/problems? I think the return policy has been gone for a while.

 

[kchau]

So I picked up my Model X Plaid 6 seater two days ago. What an odd vehicle:

1 - Worst build quality ever. Panel gaps completely off. Paint drips everywhere. Corners are poorly welded and paint chipped. Every Prius that costs one sixth of that car is better.

2 - Interior seems nice - until you realize there is no cooled center console compartment for your drinks. The silly windscreen prevented these idiots from putting in proper interior lights at night - they shine in your back - but was it THAT hard to install a light in the a pillar? You can't see what you eat at night out of the drive through.

3 - White leather lends itself to interior accent or ambient lights in all colors of the rainbow - they would bounce magically off of all the white panels - ONLY THERE ARE NONE. At night, that thing looks like nothingness.

4 - WHAT A SCAM THE 'FULL SELF DRIVE IS' - long story short, the only thing it drives self is the car into a wall. IT DOES NOT CHANGE LANES unless you indicate (where's the stalk???) - it does not exit the freeway and instead gets confused EVERY TIME a lane is added to the road and violently jerks the steering left and right unable to make up its mind. It slows down randomly on auto disengage so the semi trailing you almost hits you from behind. THIS WHOLE THING IS A JOKE and a safety issue! They charge $10k for that?!! It's worse than the lane keep assist and cruise control on my Taycan; and even worse than the cruise control on my 2017 Range Rover that ALWAYS works.

5 - 'FULL SELF DRIVING' is worse than a basic cruise control with distance function! HOW ON EARTH can Tesla not just have a basic cruise control?!! It's FSD or nothing. Completely nuts.

6 - Range. Why on earth does the car show 280 miles range, and after you drive 100 miles, you arrive at your destination that should have around 180 miles range left with less than 60 miles?!!! The range calculation is inaccurate at best and criminally misleading most of the time.

7 - Recuperation. It's non-existent. True, the silly clown vehicle slows down like crazy the moment you take your foot off the accelerator (or the 'FSD' decides to quit on you - which it did EVERY SINGLE TIME I overtook a semi yesterday. BUT THE RANGE NEVER GOES UP, even driving 5 miles coasting downhill into Las Vegas from the mountains. WHERE DOES THE ENERGY GO???
8 - How it is even legal to have that crappy yoke is beyond me. At night, you WILL grip into the dark - only to find nothing. How is it even legal to put the indicator as a button on the yoke?! I'm no idiot - but I had to think which way to indicate.

Had I moved from a 96 Toyota Tacoma to this car, I would think it's the best thing ever. But having waited for this anomaly for a year is a joke. I could keep going - FRUNK?? How on earth do you close that without breaking the hood? Paint job on the undersurface is a joke - you can see where the spray didn't quite reach. Corners are poorly painted, if at all, and they are chipping already.

To charge $150k for this vehicle is theft of $70k. And even at $80k, this clown car would be overpriced.

It didn't help that the morons at the Tesla delivery center screwed a paper temp tag on the car on delivery day without so much as giving me a license plate frame with the $150k purchase; of course, the wind sheared off the temp tag on the first time on the freeway, so I have no tag on the vehicle now. Good riddance, I won't drive it anyways.

Well, I learned my lesson. For all those of you who need a vehicle to race down a drag strip every day going 0-60 in two seconds, this is your car. I suspect there is not a lot of folks out there matching that demographic.

For most of us, think twice before wasting $150k on a $80k experimental anomaly with poor build quality.

first time here?

 

[kchau]

Actually I think this guy is a troll. Supposedly cancelled their X order. Apparently not?