Rising electricity costs, reflected in big increase in supercharger rates

[MarkThisDay]

Drove down to London and back yesterday and stopped at Oxford Supercharger. 48p per kW!! Bloody hell. £12 for a 20 min charge and 25kw.

Stupidly expensive. I can't see any justification for prices that high. There are plenty of other Superchargers which are cheaper, and plenty of Rapids which are cheaper too.

Use the Heathrow charger

 

[Nick77]

I’m really not sure there are, all super chargers bar of those few in London are all pretty much the same price.

Most rapids are north of 50p/kWh these days. Gridserve and Tesla are the exception being below.

My local PodPoint rapid is £26p, BP Pulse is 35p.

 

[qwickshot]

My local PodPoint rapid is £26p, BP Pulse is 35p.

It’s obviously being subsidised by someone (Lidl or Tesco for the pod point?) as they are selling to you below cost price. It’s as simple as that really. Tesla supercharger are pretty much the going rate these days for uncapped commercial energy.

All my local BP stations are 38p for AC and 48p for DC 50kw rapid (no subscription). All the pod points around me are either subsidised by the premises or charge 30p for AC. There are no rapids that are on a commercial basis locally.

 

[Mr H]

use the Bonnet app and all ~Osprey chargers are 35p

 

[RedMod3]

Planning trip to Scotland, a 550 mile trip and the SuC are now 50p / kWh

 

[bhanorthy]

At Markham Vale on the M1 which is planned to be Gridserves next forcourt.
No matter what method of transport you use it seems to be expensive. Can we hit £2 for diesel in the coming weeks?

 

[NewbieT]

Did a 1000 mile trip to Scotland and back last weekend. £97 in electricity, eek! Filled up for free before leaving. Free overnight at Tesco. A small top-up at CPS Ullapool (20p/kW) the rest on SuCs.

 

[ACarneiro]

Did a 1000 mile trip to Scotland and back last weekend. £97 in electricity, eek! Filled up for free before leaving. Free overnight at Tesco. A small top-up at CPS Ullapool (20p/kW) the rest on SuCs.

Indeed a far cry from "the good old days", but how much more would the same journey have cost you in Dino Juice?

 

[MarkThisDay]

Indeed a far cry from "the good old days", but how much more would the same journey have cost you in Dino Juice?

Any idea why it's only the London chargers which have peak and off peak pricing

 

[gangzoom]

Indeed a far cry from "the good old days", but how much more would the same journey have cost you in Dino Juice?

1000 miles road trip in our Lexus IS300H with current fuel prices would be £130. Don't forget though taxation on electricity is virtually nothing compared to petrol/diesel and that will change as EV usage increases.

In all likely in a few years time DC Rapid charging will be more expensive than petrol/diesel and slower. The result should mean less car journeys which ultimately is what the planet
need, encouraging less car usage overall.

 

[Adopado]

In all likely in a few years time DC Rapid charging will be more expensive than petrol/diesel and slower. The result should mean less car journeys which ultimately is what the planet
need, encouraging less car usage overall.

Yes, in theory ... but the massive increase in fuel prices over the years didn't reduce the number of cars on the road. I think there's some evidence of moderated usage in recent times but not so much as you would notice when driving from A to B.

 

[Jason71]

1000 miles road trip in our Lexus IS300H with current fuel prices would be £130. Don't forget though taxation on electricity is virtually nothing compared to petrol/diesel and that will change as EV usage increases.

In all likely in a few years time DC Rapid charging will be more expensive than petrol/diesel and slower. The result should mean less car journeys which ultimately is what the planet
need, encouraging less car usage overall.

Currently with the likes of Solar and Octopus go local driving can cost next to nothing but road trips can be almost as expensive as ICE i.e. 10-20x the price which is a bit of a quantum shift. We are used to the cost being roughly proportional to the distance now there is this step change once you exceed the range of your car. If this continues it will drive people toward more efficient EV's (good for the planet) but also towards bigger and bigger batteries (not so good for the planet).

Personally I don't do a lot of out of range journeys so the cost of supercharging is negligible in my household budget.

 

[Leejmoff]

use the Bonnet app and all ~Osprey chargers are 35p

Don't you pay a monthly sub for that?

 

[qwickshot]

Yes, and you have to question how that’s being funded and who is subsiding it. Selling below cost isn’t sustainable.

Is that a load of VC going into the app to grab a user base followed by the prices being jacked up?

It doesn’t make much sense for the charge point operator to sell below cost as you’ll probably have used it anyway.

 

[m3gt2]

Any idea why it's only the London chargers which have peak and off peak pricing

My guess would be that it's a trial to see if people that live local but don't have any way to charge at home would charge when demand is lower to ease demand at peak times if they could save some money?

 

[MarkThisDay]

My guess would be that it's a trial to see if people that live local but don't have any way to charge at home would charge when demand is lower to ease demand at peak times if they could save some money?

Think London is forcing them to have that system in place

 

[Peter 224]

The spot price for electricity varies wildly through the day, depending on the amount produced and demand, production depends on the weather. All of which together mean that Octopus can offer at 7.5p/kwh through the night and at times, during the day.
I wonder how long it will be before roadside chargers will reflect this variation.

Filled up the ICE this week, for the first time ever the self service pump cut out at £99.00 before the tank was full. Petrol may be expensive, but at least the price per litre is a relatively known quantity.

 

[RedMod3]

Although I've had my M3P for 18 months, I'd never used a SuperCharger until yesterday. I only used it as we are planning a 550 mile trip to Scotland next month. It was 5p/kWh, that is 10 times what I pay from my offpeak tariff. Oh well.

 

[Overworked]

If you use the ChargePlace Scotland chargers when you arrive you may be pleasantly surprised at the cost of some of their Rapid chargers, as well as 3 phase Level 2.

Some are still £0.00 per kW.

 

[Andywil]

Although I've had my M3P for 18 months, I'd never used a SuperCharger until yesterday. I only used it as we are planning a 550 mile trip to Scotland next month. It was 5p/kWh, that is 10 times what I pay from my offpeak tariff. Oh well.

How did you find a tarrif with 0.5p/kWh off peak.
Also which supercharger did you use at 5p/kWh?