Road and Track latest Taycan vs Model S

[2101Guy]

If you ain’t first...

 

[sixela]

Would take it all with a grain of salt.

At 140-150km/h on a German A-bahn, a Taycan is quite efficient (you'd be hard pressed to consume less kWh per km with a model 3!) -- and yes, that does matter to many.

And its range and km/min charging rate is surprisingly good too, despite its puzzlingly lackluster EPA rating (which is probably an artefact).

But they are very different cars. If you want to do long distances at 120km/h and carry either passengers in the back or luggage, then no prizes for guessing you'd rather have the model S and not the Taycan...

 

[2101Guy]

Agreed. But seems every carmaker (Audi and it’s e-tron, Top of the line Taycan S Turbo) are trying, but failing, to solidly beat Tesla where it counts to most consumers.

we shall see. I do hope that Taycan sales do better than Audi Etron

 

[sixela]

Audi E-tron sells quite nicely over here, despite all the sleuthing by Tesla fans to prove otherwise by looking at stock that you can purchase (the sales model is very, very different...)

The trouble is, though, that people are buying lots of 55 for which there are no batteries (left), and less 50s for which there _are_ batteries. Not being vertically integrated does create a lot of trouble for VW/Audi.

 

[2101Guy]

Audi E-tron sells quite nicely over here, despite all the sleuthing by Tesla fans to prove otherwise by looking at stock that you can purchase (the sales model is very, very different...)

The trouble is, though, that people are buying lots of 55 for which there are no batteries (left), and less 50s for which there _are_ batteries. Not being vertically integrated does create a lot of trouble for VW/Audi.

e-trim not so well in USA.
When you partner with Costco for discounts, typically not a sign of a hot seller
Audi And Costco Team Up For E-Tron Discount That Can Hit $13,000

 

[P100D_Me]

Taycan has got the Model-S beaten in the quarter mile though, I was surprised about that.
DragTimes on YouTube did that comparison.

 

[Zextraterrestrial]

Would take it all with a grain of salt.

At 140-150km/h on a German A-bahn, a Taycan is quite efficient (you'd be hard pressed to consume less kWh per km with a model 3!) -- and yes, that does matter to many.

And its range and km/min charging rate is surprisingly good too, despite its puzzlingly lackluster EPA rating (which is probably an artefact).

But they are very different cars. If you want to do long distances at 120km/h and carry either passengers in the back or luggage, then no prizes for guessing you'd rather have the model S and not the Taycan...

super hesitant to believe but if it true then that's awesome.!

I did 71 miles in 45 minutes @ 372 Wh/mi..93mph ave/ 118* max 500 lb luggage/passengers. 350ft elevation gain.26 kWh used
how much less would a taycan consume?
oh and when I stopped to use the facilities the 3 adds 117 miles in 11 minutes

 

[2101Guy]

Taycan has got the Model-S beaten in the quarter mile though, I was surprised about that.
DragTimes on YouTube did that comparison.

Honestly, at its cost? I would have expected the (Top of the line) Turbo S version to soundly/without question outperform the 9 year old Model S in just about every category, including range and 0-60.

Imagine the performance gap when the Taycan that costs the same as a fully loaded Model S comes out...

 

[SO16]

Plaid. That will be interesting.

Someone asked me if I was going to now get the Taycan since it’s the “fastest” street EV. I said, “you mean for a whopping 9 months until the Model S plaid comes out? Uh no.”

But I do think the Taycan looks nice. Just not worth that high of price to me.

 

[P100D_Me]

Honestly, at its cost? I would have expected the (Top of the line) Turbo S version to soundly/without question outperform the 9 year old Model S in just about every category, including range and 0-60.

I'm not defending the Taycan but in fairness the Model-S they raced was a Raven which is the best Tesla has on offer at the moment, you can't really say its the same as a 9 year old model.

Regardless what I was hoping for was Elon's ego taking a hit on that and them giving us another power increase via an update

 

[voltage]

Regardless what I was hoping for was Elon's ego taking a hit on that and them giving us another power increase via an update

We were supposed to get a 50hp increase. Never happened though.

 

[Cheburashka]

e-trim not so well in USA.
When you partner with Costco for discounts, typically not a sign of a hot seller
Audi And Costco Team Up For E-Tron Discount That Can Hit $13,000

This is very misleading as the 13K number includes the federal rebate.