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I love roadtrip stories, but this line jumped out at me. Did you talk about whether they are planning different future colors, or just about the formulation of their current colors?

He was not able to comment on future colors I'm sad to say. We talked mostly about factory paint VS repair paint which has a different base and formulation, and color matching. We discussed Laurent's car which had a custom color. I showed him photos. I did put my 2 Cents worth in for some lighter colors.
 
I drove to Sacramento and back to Eureka this weekend- 310 miles each way. HUM 101, LAK 20, COL 16, I-5, I-50, Folsom SC

Left on Saturday @ 8:30 - 266 Rated driving at 62mph on cruise control to the Benbow Inn - 1 hr 18 min : 69.5 mi ; 22.2 kWh
slight elevation gain and a bit hilly for 1/2 of it. + damp & drizzly & 55-58 F

Charged for 1:45 minutes on the 14-50 and picked up 16 kWh. (while having some yummy biscuits and gravy + a bloody Mmmmary)

Leave Benbow @ 11:30 - 240 Rated speed ~ 62mph again until Willits where I stopped for quick P break @ 166 Rated after another 65.7 miles and 21.1 kWh
After Willits I was probably averaging 50-55ish due to some cities and slower drivers (nice for a no midpoint SC road trip)

I arrived at the Folsom Supercharger at around 4:45 with 13 rated miles left. my sister lives just 4 miles from the folsom SC which is just perfect! so I rested for a little bit then headed up Iron Pt at a blazing speed - finally!

mi kW Speed
69. 22.2 62
65.7 21.1 62
170.9 43.3 53
tot 306.1 86.6 57? 283 kWhr/mi

I should comment that the Superchargers are AWESOME! but, where are any 'good' stores in Folsom (or near other superchargers for that matter)? do they exist? Strip malls are full of junk! no natural stores at all. 'Merica is doomed, I guess that is why I stay away from the lamestream civilization ;> -although sadly it is still in Humboldt too (+ other nuisances of the tweaker variety)

Met a black MSP owner that took delivery late December and was at 16,000 miles :eek: 80 mile trip to work each day, wow (oucH)

Trip home I say vin 87xx charging while I charged up to 266 Rated and left at around 2 pm

First leg I drove at 70-75mph following traffic on I-50 and I-5 and was getting a little better than rated range. ~ 285-290 Wh/mi
I stopped in Capay after 56.2 miles; 17.9 kWh with 205 rated left

From Capay to Benbow was 175.4 mi and I used 52.4 kWh and arrived with 20mi left. Noone told me the whole place was rented for a wedding reception!! Still able to charge but no yummy roasted beet / pear dinner salad that I was planning on getting:cursing:
fortunately I had bought all the fixin's for a pretty good Margarita the night before when we got mexican take-out from the place next to the SC :biggrin: Casa Noble/Cointreau/key lime juice and Agave! made my ~2 hrs of charging a bit nicer since I was sitting under an umbrella in some drizzle now and it was getting dark

Charged to 73 rated with 69.5 miles to go / rain and a 8 mph headwind showing on NOAA.. hmmm sounds good to me:tongue:

left Benbow with Cruise on 62 mph watching my rated / projecteds and distance left on Nav and the numbers were all close to matching w/ a 2 mi buffer so I bumped up to 63 mph

completed this last leg with 0 rated 69.5 mi using 20.9 kWhr

the return trip #'s

mi kW
56.2 17.9
175.4 52.4
69.5 20.9
tot 301.1 91.2 303 kWhr/mi


this trip screwed up my lifetime ave #'s a little:wink: dropped from 391 to 381 Whr/mi

as others have said
Nav is tricky if you are trying to follow a route that you want vs. what Tesla wants. I had planned on taking a straight route from 16 to the SC avoiding I5 and 50 & couldn't figure out what roads I needed to turn on but t I should have just
taken 5 and 50 due to rush hour traffic starting and the huge benefit you get when all the wind is blowing with you

I set nav for Cache creek casino so I could use 16 vs 20 to Williams but Trying to go a route that you don't know a midpoint destination could be tricky.
 
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love reading roadtrips ;-)

Amen to that. So do I.

As NapaBill said in post #4 "I'd love to see a separate section of the forum devoted to road trips, and road trip information. Now they are scattered all over the forum and it makes it difficult to refer back to them as a reference for future travel." This is that thread and I'm thinking of some great posts by forum members that should be exhumed from many scattered threads and copied/merged to this one. (For instance http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/15613-First-Road-Trip-Lynchburg-VA-to-Emerald-Isle-NC , another great write-up.) Some of these posts surpass anything written in formal press accounts.
 
We took delivery of our Model S last week. Decided to take the car to a family event in Hamden CT. Driving from our home in Oakdale NY (Long Island) the mileage if driving around and through NYC is about 120 miles each way. We took the Port Jeff Ferry, making the driving distance about 65 miles each way. I figured if we had decided to make the drive via NYC on the way back we could of stopped at Milford CT's rest stop which has a Tesla Super Charge unit. No need, as we took the ferry. Being our first trip my concern was more regarding energy lost during down time, as the car would not be plugged in at the destination. We stared out with a related charge of 185 miles and ended up with just over 40 upon arriving home. Great trip. I liked it when we checked in at the ferry, the staff was telling me that they have now seen 3 Model S's. Upon leaving the ferry, one staff male enter said that we had a very quiet Maserati. Cool...
 
Went to Winter Park last weekend on my first Model S road trip.

Left Fort Collins with 250 rated miles ( i had driven to work and around town before leaving after a range charge the night before).
Drove to Denver through rush hour traffic to pick up my friend at the Rockies game. We had snowboards, helmets, groceries, clothes and gear for three people in the car and had the right back seat folded down to fit the long stuff. I also brought a laptop and some folders to try to do some work in the condo, but that never actually occured due to the presence of a hot tub. (*side note: if you know how to ski, you do not know enough to "figure out" snowboarding. Totally different. Ask my acromioclavicular joint.*).

We drove out of Denver and stopped in Golden to grab a quite to eat bite since it was about 7pm. There were a few dinky restaurants nearby and we settled on a Jack in the Box to keep it quick, since we didn't really need too much range, I just wanted to see what it was like charging in the wild. There were two 30 amp free Chargepoint chargers at Kohl's. Free is nice, but 30 amps would not be my ideal charging situation, unless you are staying somewhere for several hours. I believe in 45 minutes we got like 15 miles of range added.

*side note: I had called ahead to the RV park in IDaho Springs which supposedly has 50amp service and will just charge by the electric meter rather than by the day. I think that is going to be a really good resource for anyone making the Mt. Evans trip. Unfortunately, the proprietor was only willing to meet me there before dark, so we chose the 30amp charger at Kohl's instead. Another option would have been a 30amp at Walgreen's, and I think there were a few more along I 70 in the 'burbs of Denver/ Golden but don't recall where. *

We then headed up I 70 into the mountains, and I would say I mostly dove 65 instead of speeding like usual, in an effort to try to retain plenty of range so I didn't worry my non-EV crazy passengers. We had the climate control on and were quite comfortable at 70 degrees. When we got to Berthoud pass it started snowing, and the roads were actually fairly icy at this point so we slowed down significantly for the switchbacks. Predictably range dropped a bit faster, and we only had 78 rated miles left at approximately the top of the pass. Luckily the rest was downhill and we actually arrived at the condo with still 78 miles reading on the battery. The temperature when we left was in the high 60's but by this time was around 29-30 F. I think the range loss was more due to altitude rather than cold, but this is a reason it would be nice to have a detailed report of where the energy is going: HVAC, battery pack heating, driving, etc.

The condo actually charged for covered (and heated) parking, but i think since they had arranged a spot next to a 110v socket they were all distracted and just let us park for free. We could walk to the lifts, so we basically charged uninterrupted for 40 hours or so, and the range when we left was about 215 i think. *Funny story about that: when we were planning this trip I had found an article through the Googles that said in 2011 the city of Winter Park installed 6 free electric vehicle chargers around the city. I was pretty lackadasical about actually packing and prepping for the trip, so it was about 24 hour before we left that I was trying to hunt down the exact locations of these on chargepoint, recargo, and just plain google searching. Turns out, there is a Winter Park Florida. Luckily the condo management was so accomodating, or I would have had to drive a stinky ICE car on my adventure (or camp at the Idaho Springs RV park over night in at least one direction of the trip).

A much warmer drive home Sunday afternoon was easily done at normal 65-80mph speeds all the way home to Ft. Collins ended a perfect roda trip with over a hundred remaining rated miles on the dash once we got home.

Stats:
Friday: 131 miles from Ft. Collins through Denver to Winter Park, rising from 5000ft to 9000 feet over an 11,300 ft. snowy winding mountain pass. Start temperature 69, end temperature 29. Climate control and radio at comfortable levels, speed limits exceeded in the low lands, but no speeding once I was in the mountains. Total 52.1 kWh used, averaging 397Wh/mi.
Sunday: 125 miles back home without the Denver detour. Temperature was 50F and above. Lots of downhill, and a little more exceeding the speed limit. 29.8 kWh used, averaging 238 Wh/mi.

I think a Supercharger in Golden would be a fairly awesome location. Are you listening, Tesla?
 
Road trip report: 395 miles in two days
I had an overnight trip to a concertdown the NC coast and decided to put the S to the test. The trip downwas 195 miles. The night before, I set the charge scheduler to finisha range charge at 8AM. The next morning, as soon as the range chargewas complete I started off. The drive to Wilmington was all on US 17,a rural highway that was mostly 55mph with a few 45mph zones throughtowns and a few 70mph bypasses. It rained the whole way down andtemps stayed around 65. We made Wilmington in 3 ½ hours. We checkedinto the hotel and disappointed the valets by driving 2 blocks overto park in the public parking deck with free EV charging. The downtrip was 197.4 miles and used 61.1kw for an average of 323w/mi. Iwould have left the car there all night, however the next morning theparking deck would be inaccessible due to a parade. Following theconcert, I picked up the car and moved it to the hotel lot. I wasback to full charge after approximately 11 hours in the parking deck.The next day, I drove the same route back home. There was no rainthis time and the temps were in the mid 70s. The climate control rana little more and I drove a little faster than I did on the down tripwith the improved weather. I used 56.6 Kw to go 196.7 miles for anaverage of 288w/mi. I am very happy with how the S performed. So howwas this trip different than had I done this in my previous car? Idid some prior planning: I checked the mileage, calculated charge andtravel times and I called to check the status of the EV chargers inthe parking deck. I parked in a deck instead of at the hotel, butconsidering I spent most of the evening walking around that area oftown anyway, it was no big deal. I spent about $15 to travel nearly400 miles ($7.30 in electricity at home and $8 to park in the deckwith free charging) and I would have spent $80 in gas to do that inmy old truck. Most importantly, I truly enjoyed the ride. My onlyquestion: Why the 4.5kw difference in the trips? Was it the wet roadsand the wipers running for 3 hours or was it the warmer temps?
 
At the end of April, my wife and I took a great Model S road trip from the SF bay area to Vegas and back. Since an all-electric road trip still takes a bit more planning than a road trip in a conventional car, I thought I would share my experiences to help others planning similar trips. I kept a log of driving time, charging time, mileage between superchargers, and rated mileage used on each segment of the trip. I also kept the cruise control set at 75 mph whenever possible.

Since driving to Vegas takes the better part of a day, I took two days off of work and we headed out on Thursday, April 25[SUP]th[/SUP]. We started out with most of a range charge (263 rated miles) which was more than enough to make it the 162 miles from our house in San Leandro to Harris ranch. A little detour in Livermore for some coffee put the actual distance at 167 miles and we arrived at Harris Ranch with a comfortable 50 rated miles on the gauge. The six new Harris Ranch superchargers are really easy to spot- they are in the corner of the main parking lot closest to the entrance (the original supercharger is across the road near the gas station). We had the place all to ourselves, but that shouldn’t be too surprising since it was 11:25 am on a weekday. There was a shovel and a wheel barrow on the ground so it looked like someone was still doing some work on the superchargers. But the superchargers themselves worked great- we added range at a very respectable 288 rated miles and hour once things had spooled up.

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Harris ranch is kind of an interesting place. We noticed a small group of classic cars parked together in the parking lot as well as lots of cow-themed furniture inside.

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When we headed back to the car, I noticed a two-man work crew wearing red Tesla T-shirts working on the superchargers and I chatted with the older of the two while the car was charging. He was a very friendly guy originally from Poland and I bet he’s talked to quite a few members of this forum. I kind of got the impression that those two guys might be the entire west coast supercharger installation team, but I’m not completely sure. He said they were really busy installing new supercharger locations and mentioned that they were installing chargers on the 101 so that people could go between LA and San Francisco on both the 101 and Interstate 5 in the very near future. He also mentioned that their goal was to have 100 supercharger locations online by the end of the year and he said the hard part was getting the permits and negotiating with the land owners rather than doing the actual installation. At this point, he had to get back to work so my wife and I headed off to Tejon ranch with 206 rated miles on the guage.

The superchargers at Tejon ranch are even easier to spot than the ones at Harris Ranch- you can see the giant solar canopy from the interstate as you approach from the North.

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We arrived with 57 rated miles and once again we had the place to ourselves. I plugged the car in and we went off in search of In-N-Out for lunch since my wife had never been there before. Tejon ranch is pretty spread out and the superchargers are at the opposite end of the place as In-N-Out. You also have to cross three separate cross walks on fairly busy roads to get there on foot. If you have passengers in the car that aren’t wearing comfortable shoes you might want to drop them off before charging the car.

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It took longer than anticipated to walk to and from In-N-Out so the car charged up to nearly a full standard charge of 241 miles in 59 minutes. When we got back to the car, I let the nav system figure out how to get us to the Barstow supercharger and it took us on route 138 east, then 14 north, then onto highway 58. Parts of route 138 were pretty desolate and slacker kept cutting out when the 3G connection got too weak. Because of charging longer than anticipated at Tejon, we made it to Barstow with 71 miles of range. The Barstow superchargers are much harder to find than the ones at Harris ranch or Tejon ranch. They are located behind the Chilis and we had all four charging bays to ourselves. There is an outlet mall across a flood control channel from the superchargers. At first I though we would have to do a bit of hiking to get there, but luckily the bridge that crossed the flood control channel also had a pedestrian walkway. Between a bit of paranoia about finding a place to charge that night in Vegas and my wife’s interest in the outlet mall, we charged the car all the way up to 258 rated miles before heading off.

The drive to Vegas was pretty uneventful and we made it to our hotel with a comfortable 81 rated miles left. We were staying at the Wynn and a quick scan around the self-park garage didn’t turn up any outlets within reach of a parking spot. I asked about charging the car there, but no one seemed to know anything about charging an electric car so after checking in and hauling all of our bags up to the room, we decided to try our luck at the very popular free J1772 chargers on the sixth floor of the Venetian self park garage. These are pretty easy to spot since the wall near the chargers is painted green. Since it was Thursday night, we were in luck and both spots were free. We got a full standard charge that night and a white Chevy volt was in the other spot when I went to move the car the next morning.

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We usually fly to Vegas and having a car (especially a really nice car) is MUCH better than walking from one end of the strip to the other or hailing a cab. We drove all over the place on Friday.

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My wife and I both like to play poker (although we like to keep the stakes low so as not to risk too much money) so we checked out several poker rooms until it was time for dinner. We went to craftsteak at the MGM grand and I couldn’t resist the Japanese A5 Wagyu beef I saw on the menu. I’ve been trying to have real Japanese Kobe beef for a long time and I figured I might as well order it since it was less expensive than airfare or gasoline would have been. I had the 8 oz New York strip and it was completely different than any steak I’d ever had before. It was delicious, but I’m glad it was only 8 oz because it was so rich that any more would have been too much.

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After dinner, we went back to the Wynn to see La Reve since the tickets came as park of the room package. It was a very impressive show, although it didn’t quite top Cirque du Soleil KA that we had seen a few years earlier. After the show, we drove back to the Excaliber to spend some more time at their low stakes poker tables. We finally left at about 2:30 am and decided to go back to the Venetian to see if we could fill the battery back up enough to make it back to Barstow on Sunday without any more charging stops. There was a grey Model S in one of the spots, but luckily the other spot was free. The next morning I found out from the facebook model S group that a third Model S was in town and trying to charge so I let him know when I had moved the car so he could charge.

The next day we didn’t drive as much and spend most of our time within walking distance of the MGM (although we did stop off at the Gold and Silver Pawn shop where they film Pawn Stars and the parking lot attendant had never heard of Tesla and was blown away when I told him it was 100% electric and that I’d driven there from the San Francisco bay area).

Sunday morning it was time to head out and we left with 235 rated miles. After a brief stop in Primm, we rolled in to Barstow with 55 rated miles. This time there was already a car plugged into charging bay 2A. Since the Tesla supercharger installation guy had confirmed my understanding of how the superchargers are wired, I plugged into bay 1A and got a respectable 263 miles/hour of range. Shortly afterwards, two more Model S’s pulled up and took the last two spots.

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My wife came out way ahead on Poker (alas I was only up a little) so we went to the coach store so she could spend some of her winnings. But this time, several buses of foreign tourists had just been dropped off at the outlet mall and the place was completely packed. By the time we made it back to the car, we had almost a complete range charge (259 miles). The three other cars were still charging and a white Model S was waiting. He grabbed the spot the instant we left.

This time the nav system took us through Victorville before taking us on an even more desolate route 18 before putting us back on 14 north and the still desolate 138 back to Tejon. The next time we do this trip, I might backtrack a bit and take 58 to Barstow to stay within cell phone range for more of the trip. But following the nav system, we made it to Tejon with a whopping 89 rated miles. This allowed us to head to Harris ranch with 180 miles of range after a brief 25 minute charge (it would have been even faster if Starbucks had been quicker).

We made it Harris ranch with 46 rated miles and had a nice steak dinner while the car charged. Harris ranch isn’t exactly fast food and the car had almost a complete range charge (259 miles) by the time we walked back to the car. We made it back home with a comfortable 60 rated miles of range.

Overall it was a very fun trip and proved yet again that the 85 kWh Model S and supercharging makes for a great road trip experience. Although now that I know how much range is required to make it between supercharger stops at 75 mph, I won’t have to be quite as conservative and can reduce the charging time a bit. But between the meals and the mall we spent very little time doing nothing but waiting for the car to charge.

Here are the overall stats (aka TL;DR):
Total distance: 1237 miles
San Leandro to Vegas: 11 hours 47 minutes total; 8 hours 53 minutes driving and 2 hours 54 minutes charging
Vegas to San Leandro: 12 hours 17 minutes total; 9 hours 11 minutes driving and 3 hours 6 minutes charging

San Leandro to Harris Ranch: 167 actual miles, used 213 rated miles
Harris Ranch to Tejon Ranch: 117 actual miles, used 149 rated miles
Tejon Ranch to Barstow: 151 actual miles, used 170 rated miles
Barstow to Vegas: 158 actual miles, used 177 rated miles

Vegas to Barstow: 162 actual miles, used 180 rated miles
Barstow to Tejon: 154 actual miles, used 170 rated miles
Tejon to Harris: 116 actual miles, used 134 rated miles
Harris to San Leandro: 162 actual miles, used 199 rated


Harris Ranch: max charge rate of 288 mi/hr
Tejon Ranch: max charge rate of 289 mi/hr
Barstow: max charge rate of 273 mi/hr

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Great write up and pictures, now I'm starving!

2 months and 5 days til my Vegas trip, though it should be much easier from San Diego (300 miles away).

I hope you have as much fun going to Vegas as we had. And if you're wondering why it looks like you are replying to a post before it was posted, I tried to replace one of the images and it screwed things up enough that I deleted the post and then posted it again.
 
I just completed that trip last weekend and also noticed some inconsistency in the navigation routing from Barstow to Tejon. I've done the trip several times and it has given me a different route each time. The most problematic route was on Saturday when it told me to use Lenwood Road to get to 58. Only problem is that Lenwood road is closed about a mile or so from 58. Also, my preferred route is to stay on 58 over Tehachapi then 223.

But the bottom line, IMHO, is to do a Range charge at Barstow, then go direct to Harris Ranch. With a descent of 2,000 ft, and conservative driving, shouldn't be a problem. But no In-N-Out burger.
 
But the bottom line, IMHO, is to do a Range charge at Barstow, then go direct to Harris Ranch. With a descent of 2,000 ft, and conservative driving, shouldn't be a problem. But no In-N-Out burger.

I'd love to hear a detailed report from someone who has gone directly from Barstow to Harris ranch (e.g. how many rated miles used, what the cruise control was set at, how hot it was outside, etc.) And I definitely agree with your point in the earlier thread about this: "As I mentioned, once you get to Bakersfield, you can make a go/no-go decision." The trip between Tejon and Barstow was definitely my least favorite part of the drive.
 
I'd love to hear a detailed report from someone who has gone directly from Barstow to Harris ranch (e.g. how many rated miles used, what the cruise control was set at, how hot it was outside, etc.) And I definitely agree with your point in the earlier thread about this: "As I mentioned, once you get to Bakersfield, you can make a go/no-go decision." The trip between Tejon and Barstow was definitely my least favorite part of the drive.

IMO, any approach that eliminates time spent on I-5 is a good approach. Hate it!
 
Fantastic, wraithnot. Good Supercharger info, but I would have pressed the Polish guy to point out exact locations on the map! Road trips with Superchargers are awesome, I can only imagine what it will be like when we can go ANYWHERE in the country like this. I'm driving up to SF next weekend, after the "Supercharger announcement" next week, it would be awesome if I could take the 101.
 
We have taken a few road trips in the 2 years we have had the Model S...and as Superchargers have come on line, planning has definitely gotten easier.

Nothing puts it in to focus like the trip we are leaving on tomorrow: 10,000 miles, from Seattle to Phoenix to Rapid City to D.C. to Acadia National Park in Maine, then back home. We will probably hit 55 Superchargers along the way, and planning most of the trip where we are using them has been really easy.

The few places where there aren't Superchargers (i.e. Maine, Montana) are taking up almost all of my trip planning time (and will take up a disproportionate amount of the trip as well - and will be responsible for almost all of our "fuel" costs!). I was planning some stuff in Eastern CA/Western NV that I finally gave up on and went back to I-5 for the Superchargers. Thanks for the Superchargers, Tesla, they are really making a difference! I can't wait to see the whole country covered.
 
Road Trip Report:
Atlanta to Titusville, FL for a weekend at Kennedy Space Center. Supercharged in Macon (had lunch at the Rookery), Supercharged in Savannah (got some Starbucks), St. Augustine (did some shopping), Port Orange (walked around the shops and lake)... then on to our hotel in Titusville. Because I had stayed a little longer at Port Orange on the way down, the next day we had enough juice to get us around Port Canaveral over to NASA for the tours. Then later enough to drive around Titusville for a while and back up to Port Orange on Sunday. On the way back at each stop we did all the things we didn't have time to do on the way down because the car charges so fast :) The car performed flawlessly, I got a bunch of pictures of bad-ass rockets, and the super charger stops were actually a large part of the fun.

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10,000 miles, from Seattle to Phoenix to Rapid City to D.C. to Acadia National Park in Maine, then back home. We will probably hit 55 Superchargers along the way
That's epic. Sounds like a blast!! I really can't wait until the SC network has the SE connected to the midwest and beyond... straight shot... :) Mount Rushmore.... Yellowstone.. all kinds of places I can't wait to road trip to!
 
ChadS, I was going to suggest (if you haven't) that you go from Corning to Truckee on the Superchargers, then head south down US 395. The Bridgeport RV Park (I used it) has a 50-amp plugs for a top off to Lone Pine. Ray's Motel (clean but not fancy) has a 50A plug for overnight charging.

Then, you could either take the safe route to Barstow south on US395 to Kramer's Junction, then east to Barstow. Or, you could head directly to Las Vegas through Death Valley. The drive is about 230 miles to Vegas--but be sure you check a road map and go through Pahrump, and not exit the park northeast via Scotty's Castle.

There are a couple of 50A plugs inside the park--you may wish to check on PlugShare for a day rate for 2 hours of juice.

However, it will be HOT HOT HOT--but is a more reasonable route to return to the Supercharger Highway---!