If Ukraine is on top of this, they'll get behind the convey and target the back end, further cutting this convoy off from any supplies. Ukraine can then just surround the convey and wait them out.
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Russia/Ukraine conflict
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SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
I'm thinking .... flat tyres
The "Why Ukraine is the fault of the West" line of thinking is just blatantly denying the right of self determination of Eastern Europeans and also a weirdly reverential apologia of Russian imperialism.
That's pretty much what they did with other incoming troops. Let the tanks in, then target the trucks coming in behind them.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
If you put a stick in between the spokes of the tire, next time it rotates around to the axle fork it'll get stuck.
Seriously though......how are these convoys not super easy to stop in 2022? 20 or 30 drones should be able to handle it, no?
What kind of drones are you talking about? Ukrainians only have a couple dozen of the Turkish Bayraktars. We don't know how many the initial and subsequent Russian missile strikes took out, plus the Russians have mobile air defence with their armored forces. On the plus side, the footage that we have seen of them in action is very encouraging - when hitting an ammo or fuel truck it can wipe a whole unit.
BrownOuttaSpec
Active Member
That's what I was thinking as well, how does a convoy just roll down the highway to the capital?? (I think they only have 11 drones)
It seems that 1 farmer could easily slow the convoy down.... dump large debris in the main road, dig a 1 meter deep trench on each side of it for 50meters. Tanks could pass easily but the supply convoy would be deterred. I couldn't imagine it would take more than a few hours or so to do something like that with a back hoe.
The more you do it, the more lead time you have for the next farmer to do the same 1km up the road. Maybe you don't have to do all of that if the ground is squishy/marshy enough like they say, just dump some tree trunks on the road . Then maybe every 5th blockage or so setup some anti-tank troops to ambush.
(I'm just an armchair War General, don't think too much about this).
CLK350
Member
Yes, I understand - I've done many similar quick judgments, since I knew I was right and what the truth was, and that saved me a lot of time and aggravation.
< ... skipping a few decades .. > Short version, Rashomon.
OT *2 -> back to Elon Musk and Tesla/ SpaceX. He's the rare person who's had a real gamut of experiences - and now that he's successful (euphemism) it is even more amazing he's kept 'real'. Am also really curious as to what he's envisioning for a 'less worse' form of government for Mars and other galaxies. Pretty optimistic, considering what he's accomplished in business organization, rather revolutionary I think.
This is why I think the EU and the US should increase their involvement. They are already supplying weapons, money, food, and other aid. The Russian military can't fight an actually WW3. We don't need to go into Russia. But many civilians in Ukraine will die and much more of the major cities will be destroyed if it takes a month for Russia to lose. The Russians have already increased indescriminant booming/destruction. NATO forces should just use drones and other airstrikes to take out the Russian supply line and stop any further advance of tanks/vehicles without putting a single boot on the ground. It would just be a small, but very significant (in terms of ending this conflict quickly) step up in what they are already doing.
nwdiver
Well-Known Member
Russian plugshare sites are getting spammed with war images from Ukraine.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Cute, but if you cannot grasp why Imperialism and puppet states are deeply flawed I think it best to leave you alone.
Zhelko Dimic
Careful bull
???
Putin would answer with tactical nukes to that. Not bing ones, just small ones. It's a part of Russian military doctrine, even if he wasn't who he is.
CLK350
Member
nwdiver
Well-Known Member
Not necessarily. They know that would be then end of their country. And Russian invaded 8 years ago with 'Little Green Men'. Who's to say where the 'Little Gray Planes' came from that destroyed a Russian Column?
I can understand why somebody would be a bit gun-shy. We all have big weapons, while some of us have civilization-altering weapons. And mistakes are easy to make, leading to inadvertent escalation.
Many are talking tough now, but the West has a lot of long-term coordination issues. For instance, should the US let the EU expand into its frontiers when it is the US security guarantee that underpins it all?
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
If you accept that as a given, you are already beaten and a vassal, willing to accept any "compromise" offered.
From what I’ve read, e.g., Fiona Hill, this will cause Putin to use tactical nukes. I don’t have military or Russian/Putin understanding beyond what I read, so I leave this to hopefully much smarter individuals. My only point is it is critical to leverage the knowledge of those who have it.
Russian male psyche is to be a manly man with biiig balls. Anyone who thinks he doesn’t have big enough ones to use localised nukes is a bit dilusional
nwdiver
Well-Known Member
There's a difference between 'manly' and 'suicidal'. You use a nuke. You die. That's been the rule since the 60s.
