Russia/Ukraine conflict

[bkp_duke]

Just my 0.02, I'm not West Point trained, or anything really except coming from a military family.

Ukraine needs to mount a counter-offensive before the capital is encircled. Russia has telegraphed their plays, they intend to encircle and then heavily bombard the city (which, I know is huge in terms of land area).

It seems it would be prudent to degrade those Russian columns before they become entrenched. Normally air power would be great for this, but Ukraine may not have the capability to do this. Degrading those troops would probably save a lot of lives, and make the counter-offensive a lot easier long-term.

 

[Singuy]

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Even if some kid found this flag in his grandpa's footlocker, the unit commander allowed this display in a combat zone. There should be no doubt that a new cold war has begun, and what is motivating the 'Soviet' troops.

See 1:21 of the video here:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=911001606262244

Too bad the soviet army and now economy is still stuck in the 1970s...lol.

Maybe Turkey can bring back the ottoman empire next.

 

[bkp_duke]

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60717902

Clearly Russia wants to cut off:
1) western weapons supplies (this was supposed to be a major route for import of western supplies)
2) a substantial airbase from which Ukraine was launching aircraft for support of troops / airstrikes

 

[JRP3]

Interesting analysis of China's position in this conflict, basically stating that there is only downside for China supporting Putin in anyway and the only rational move would be to support the west.

Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China's Choice | U.S.-China Perception Monitor

Hu Wei is the vice-chairman of the Public Policy Research Center of the Counselor's Office of the State Council.

uscnpm.org

 

[madodel]

2022 Russian Invasion of Ukraine

Mar 12, 2022​

Forbes Ukraine estimated the value of Russia's destroyed equipment — 2,593 units — since the start of the war with Ukraine at more than US $5.1 billion. Among the destroyed equipment are 58 aircraft, 83 helicopters, 363 tanks and 1,205 armored combat vehicles, but does not include missiles fired into Ukraine or equipment seized by Ukrainian forces.​

I'd have thought the value of the destruction of Putin's military losses would be higher a higher value.

 

[STS-134]

HA HA HA HA . . . NO on both counts.

1) quote from Wikipedia above (and it has the link in the sources):
" The aerodynamics and engines enable it to achieve speeds of Mach 2 and fly supersonic without afterburners (supercruise) giving a significant kinematic advantage and extends the effective range of missiles and bombs over previous generations of aircraft."


2) You really don't understand how supersonic aircraft work, do you? The speed of sound is relatively fixed in air (it does travel slower as the air gets thinner). When you BREAK the sound barrier, your sonic boom is literally travelling BEHIND you as you are flying. The sound doesn't somehow get magically FASTER and go ahead of you at Mach 3 (since you are going Mach 2).

Hypersonic Speed Explained: How Hypersonic Planes Work

Higher, farther, faster: NASA's X-43A plane is destined to set new speed records. What sets the X-43A apart from other rocket-powered aircraft is that it is powered by a scramjet engine. Learn all about it.

science.howstuffworks.com

"It is just like being on the shore of a smooth lake when a boat speeds past. There is no disturbance in the water as the boat comes by, but eventually a large wave from the wake rolls onto shore. When a plane flies past at supersonic speeds the exact same thing happens, but instead of the large wake wave, you get a sonic boom."

The speed of causality (i.e. the speed at which information can travel in our universe) is way faster than the speed of sound. The speed of causality is 299,792,458 m/s which is also the speed of light. So after people hear the boom (or microphones that have been setup to listen for sonic booms hear it), an alert can easily be sent out to everyone who is in the general direction that the boom is propagating. Since information travels WAY faster than sound (and the aircraft), people can get the alert in plenty of time to react to it. It wouldn't be too difficult to set up a system that does something like this. We already have a similar system that detects other types of waves and automatically alerts people to their presence: ShakeAlert® | Earthquake Early Warning

 

[Skipdd]

This appears to be legitimate, notwithstanding it is being reported by a well known liberal news letter. I can’t translate the Russian, but certain words are obvious. According to the article, the Kremlin meno also details other claims to be made - like sending wild birds that have been infected with virus into areas. Curious what others think.

Leaked Kremlin Memo to Russian Media: It Is “Essential” to Feature Tucker Carlson
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/

 

[kabin]

This appears to be legitimate, notwithstanding it is being reported by a well known liberal news letter. I can’t translate the Russian, but certain words are obvious. According to the article, the Kremlin meno also details other claims to be made - like sending wild birds that have been infected with virus into areas. Curious what others think.

Leaked Kremlin Memo to Russian Media: It Is “Essential” to Feature Tucker Carlson
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/

Yep, not surprising. Tucker Carlson says knuckleheaded things at times including Putin favorable viewpoints which may align with past viewpoints of POTUS 45.

 

[bkp_duke]

The speed of causality (i.e. the speed at which information can travel in our universe) is way faster than the speed of sound. The speed of causality is 299,792,458 m/s which is also the speed of light. So after people hear the boom (or microphones that have been setup to listen for sonic booms hear it), an alert can easily be sent out to everyone who is in the general direction that the boom is propagating. Since information travels WAY faster than sound (and the aircraft), people can get the alert in plenty of time to react to it. It wouldn't be too difficult to set up a system that does something like this. We already have a similar system that detects other types of waves and automatically alerts people to their presence: ShakeAlert® | Earthquake Early Warning

The assertion was the plane didn't have supercruise capability, not that there might be a sensor net.

This is changing the goalposts of the argument to save face. I was simply pointing out the factual errors put forth.

 

[EVNow]

How dumb are people …

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503021976767455232

 

[samppa]

Mad respect for Zelensky.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503058935145807874

 

[STS-134]

This is changing the goalposts of the argument to save face.

It's pretty hard for me to change the goalposts if I wasn't even the one making the argument in the first place. I am merely pointing out that a sonic boom does not make an aircraft stealth because of the mere fact that you can't hear it until after it passes, because information can be sent forward much faster than the aircraft is traveling.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

How dumb are people …

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503021976767455232

I'm encouraged by the 20% difference as a result of being informed that yes it in fact it is an act of war.

Sure they should have known that in the first place, but in this day and age that's about the best we can hope for.

 

[EVCollies]

Mad respect for Zelensky.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503058935145807874

WOW, and while Putin hides under a rock in the Ural mountains...

 

[EVNow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502959772873764868

 

[madodel]

Zelensky today: “You are asking me how’s the situation on the front line … there’s a front line everywhere.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502717488794058760

 

[EVNow]

Would anyone care? But seriously since YouTube isn't a public utility they can provide the content they want, just like Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, etc.

Actually no - they are kind of monopoly and need to be held to their standards and contract with the customers. Just as FB or Twitter …

 

[EVNow]

Should Tulsi be now censored ?

Afterall this is a war US is apparently not even fighting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503120146021318656

 

[JRP3]

It's pretty hard for me to change the goalposts if I wasn't even the one making the argument in the first place. I am merely pointing out that a sonic boom does not make an aircraft stealth because of the mere fact that you can't hear it until after it passes, because information can be sent forward much faster than the aircraft is traveling.

Depends on the distance. You have to factor in human reaction time on both ends of the information as well. How far does it travel between initial observation, physical data entry, reception of data, and implementation of effective action?

 

[JRP3]

Actually no - they are kind of monopoly and need to be held to their standards and contract with the customers. Just as FB or Twitter …

They are no kind of monopoly at all. There are countless ways to post information and no one is dependent upon a few sites. I've never had a facebook account and haven't even bothered to look at it for years.