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Russia/Ukraine conflict
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There was a report from a Russian soldier that there will be a ceasefire in 2-3 days and he will rotated out.
That is one unconfirmed source, but some supporting evidence.
This is in line with:-
Russia probably hopes to take Mariupol before the ceasefire starts, and hopes to refresh troops and replenish supplies.
Ukraine needs to be careful about the terms of the ceasefire, but can use it to bring valuable weapons and supplies into Kyiv and get civilians out of a few tricky situations.
Russia obviously intends to replace starving poorly trained conscripts with foreign mercenaries which are expendable, that is because any attempt to take Kyiv will result in high casualties.
Many of those mercenaries may soon realise their best chance of leaving Ukraine alive is to surrender.
The best hope of negotiated deal is sanctions are starting to bite.
The death of foreign mercenaries in high numbers, will not concern everyday Russians..
That is one unconfirmed source, but some supporting evidence.
This is in line with:-
Russia probably hopes to take Mariupol before the ceasefire starts, and hopes to refresh troops and replenish supplies.
Ukraine needs to be careful about the terms of the ceasefire, but can use it to bring valuable weapons and supplies into Kyiv and get civilians out of a few tricky situations.
Russia obviously intends to replace starving poorly trained conscripts with foreign mercenaries which are expendable, that is because any attempt to take Kyiv will result in high casualties.
Many of those mercenaries may soon realise their best chance of leaving Ukraine alive is to surrender.
The best hope of negotiated deal is sanctions are starting to bite.
The death of foreign mercenaries in high numbers, will not concern everyday Russians..
bkp_duke
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Actually, Wiki did state it was supercruise capable. And your article did as well.
From Wiki (I already quoted this):
"The aerodynamics and engines enable it to achieve speeds of Mach 2 and fly supersonic without afterburners (supercruise) giving a significant kinematic advantage and extends the effective range of missiles and bombs over previous generations of aircraft."
THEN I QUOTED YOUR OWN ARTICLE, and you still ignored it. I'm done with this BS. Be an adult and admit you were wrong. You are nitpicking now try to get some semblance of "I was right" and saying I was interpreting your words incorrectly. You stated things as FACT which were blatantly wrong, and not true against FACTS. These were not statements of opinion regarding the Su-57.
I don't have a "personal" beef with you, you just don't like being called out when you state your personal opinion as "fact".
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
Ukraine should "honor" the ceasefire just like Russia has in the past 2 weeks. /s
Re: Wikipedia. Don't take everything there as gospel. There are people who are seemingly paid to remove any edits on certain pages that don't follow their world view. I've made edits in the past in areas where I've had 100% knowledge of the topic - only to have my edits undone by people who have very little knowledge of it. So these days I often don't bother to try and make things correct.
Not just another mainstream perspective on what's happening:
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Interesting analysis of China's position in this conflict, basically stating that there is only downside for China supporting Putin in anyway and the only rational move would be to support the west.
Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China's Choice | U.S.-China Perception Monitor
Hu Wei is the vice-chairman of the Public Policy Research Center of the Counselor's Office of the State Council.uscnpm.org
Very interesting, but it probably won't become Chinese policy.
This is pretty much what I was trying to convey originally. When using a stealth aircraft in short supply, you are using it to sneak up on a target and take it out before they are alerted to your presence. The last thing you want to do is broadcast to the enemy's defense network that you're up there with sonic booms. The target won't hear them until you're past, but the defenses between your base and the target will hear you.
The saying went with automotive speeders back in the 1960s who were trying to outrun police cars, "you can't outrun Motorola"
It's basically laying out what their spin doctoring narrative is going to be. The Russian leadership probably doesn't believe any of it.
The various companies tend to react to how much the public is reacting. The public reaction too the Ukraine war is very strong and those for Russia are very small. Additionally, the world tends to have a stronger reaction to cross border incursions than internal atrocities. Not saying it's right, but that's how it tends to go.
In the west (Europe and North America) unfortunately people seem to have a stronger reaction to white people getting hurt than non-white people. Again, it isn't right, but that's the way it happens.
So even though Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries are fighting a proxy war in Yemen against Iran, the mostly white parts of the world either don't know about it or don't care much, while white people in a European country getting attacked is a big deal.
We still have a ways to go on racism.
Just because they asked doesn't mean they are going to get them.
You misunderstood the intent of my original post, which led down this rabbit hole.
Later I opined that while the Russians claim the Su-57 has supercruise, I am skeptical that it can perform as they claim because they have a history of lying about the military capabilities of their military equipment. I hold out the possibility that the Su-57 can supercruise for a sustained amount of time, but I will believe it when I see test results from some more reliable source than the Russian government that confirms it.
I'm happy to be done with this tangent.
I am currently enjoying the low amount of Russian trolls on FB. It's pretty sweet. Every positive Tesla article is no longer bombarded by Russian trolls with laughing emojis and TeslaQ talking points.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Just sayin ... if all these foreign fighters leave their home territory in Chechnya, Syria - home territory might be easy picking for their rivals ...
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Entirely dependent upon local conditions. Yes, I've done it successfully, but not every time
Terminator857
Active Member
Curious, if you want to point out an example. I have about 11K edits on wikipedia.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
I'm actually surprised that the US hasn't tried to send Russia a message with some hostile actions in Syria.
ya where is all the covert CIA crap we see/read in the movies/books when we need it
Syria ain't NATO involvement ... so NADA risks
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
I wonder where our aircraft carriers are currently parked . . .
www.marinevesseltraffic.com
No where near the conflict zone it appears.
US Aircraft Carriers Location Tracker
How to track and locate US Aircraft Carriers? Review photos and current location live maps thereof. How many classes of Aircraft Carriers there are?
www.marinevesseltraffic.com
No where near the conflict zone it appears.
11 Years into the Syrian Conflict, Explore its Toll, Putin’s Role
Years before his 2022 invasion of Ukraine, Putin intervened in Syria to aid President Bashar al-Assad. Revisit FRONTLINE documentaries on the conflict.
www.pbs.org
If it can be done well the Syrians definitely need some help, but
It may sound crazy, but the best chance of success is for all other parties to align and agree to fight Asad and the Russians only for now.
The presence of ISIS in Syria complicates things, but for now Asad and Russia are the greater evil.
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Members of the Ukrainian Police Kord special purpose unit are reportedly using UAVs to drop munitions on Russian armored vehicles.
I wonder where our aircraft carriers are currently parked . . .
US Aircraft Carriers Location Tracker
How to track and locate US Aircraft Carriers? Review photos and current location live maps thereof. How many classes of Aircraft Carriers there are?
No where near the conflict zone it appears.
This site also reports on the location of the carriers:
CV Locations
It has some differences, but it too is reporting no US carriers near the conflict zone in Ukraine. The closest is one carrier in the Aegean Sea. I did read about a year back that many of the US carriers went past their regular maintenance dates due to the conflicts in the Middle East and quite a few carriers needed downtime for major overhauls. The fleet is also down a carrier right now after the decommissioning of the Enterprise and the Ford hasn't finished work up for her first deployment yet, though that's close, probably within the next few months.
It is interesting the US carriers are well away from the conflict zone.
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