Russia/Ukraine conflict

[jabloomf1230]

Obama rn

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At least Obama is consistent in his views regarding Russia and Ukraine. He WAS the POTUS when Putin began his adventure. With regard to the conflict, history will judge him either as a genius or an idiot. There will be no middle ground.

 

[SwedishAdvocate]

Obama rn

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1. Does anyone have a link to the actual article?

2. IMO Obama is just simply DEAD WRONG on this as it's being portrayed in this picture/snippet. For the umpteenth time: There is no "Russia"! There is just merely the Russian Dictator and his minions. If Ukraine defeats the Dictator and his minions, then 'Russia' could very well Disintegrate as many in this thread have also elaborated on. And how is Ukraine going to be vulnerable then, if 'Russia' disintegrates and perhaps also rids 'itself' of the Dictator and the minions, and perhaps even starts to actually 'grapple with' it's history like Germany did after WW2?... Yeah – it's far from a given outcome – but it isn't completely impossible either.

 

[wdolson]

If there is a shortage of pilots, perhaps further developments could have brave western F-16 and Gripen pilots volunteering under the cover of the Ukrainian flag. There is much historical precedent for this, particularly in the case of Russia and China supporting their proxy forces in Korea and Vietnam while claiming not being a party to those conflicts. Since these planes would not leave Ukrainian territory, anyone shot down could not be taken captive by Russia.

There is more than just pilots. A team of ground crew is necessary for each aircraft as well as as a supply chain of spare parts and ground equipment specifically for that aircraft. They can get western volunteers for the ground crew too, but the number of people who are currently certified on the Gripen both to maintain it and fly it are limited. A total of 271 have been built of all versions (the early versions are not fully interoperable with NATO equipment), and Sweden has about 100 in inventory. The rest have been sold to other countries.

 

[Tiger]

2. IMO Obama is just simply DEAD WRONG on this as it's being portrayed in this picture/snippet. For the umpteenth time: There is no "Russia"! There is just merely the Russian Dictator and his minions. If Ukraine defeats the Dictator and his minions, then 'Russia' could very well Disintegrate as many in this thread have also elaborated on. And how is Ukraine going to be vulnerable then, if 'Russia' disintegrates and perhaps also rids 'itself' of the Dictator and the minions, and perhaps even starts to actually 'grapple with' it's history like Germany did after WW2?... Yeah – it's far from a given outcome – but it isn't completely impossible either.

This, but also, why would Ukraine be different from any other sovereign nation, Türkïe, Latvia, Lithuana, Estonia. And ofcourse, Ukraine should join NATO to keep the thugs out.

 

[DrGriz]

1. Does anyone have a link to the actual article?

2. IMO Obama is just simply DEAD WRONG on this as it's being portrayed in this picture/snippet. For the umpteenth time: There is no "Russia"! There is just merely the Russian Dictator and his minions. If Ukraine defeats the Dictator and his minions, then 'Russia' could very well Disintegrate as many in this thread have also elaborated on. And how is Ukraine going to be vulnerable then, if 'Russia' disintegrates and perhaps also rids 'itself' of the Dictator and the minions, and perhaps even starts to actually 'grapple with' it's history like Germany did after WW2?... Yeah – it's far from a given outcome – but it isn't completely impossible either.

I honestly think that this is just an observation of proximity. As long as Russia (or it's successor) is next to Ukraine, it has an advantage and an interest that the US does not share. It is not to say that Russia or it's successor will necessarily continue it's adventurism should it's politics evolve. That said, we certainly should have and should now be less slow to help defend Ukraine. It was a mistake to not signal more support in 2014. And not just by the US. Western Europe should have stood up.

 

[DanCar]

..., history will judge him either as a genius or an idiot. ...

A wimp for not willing to give more effort and quick to give up. Trump sent lethal weapons at the behest of his staff which was a much better idea than Obama just sending non lethal aid.

From 2014: Ukraine pleads for more aid, Obama says no:

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD994.pdf

Quote: Ukraine to Get More U.S. Aid, but Not Weapons;
Obama Refuses to Budge on Lethal Aid Despite Poroshenko's Passionate Plea in Congress

 

[Bouba]

A wimp for not willing to give more effort and quick to give up. Trump sent lethal weapons at the behest of his staff which was a much better idea than Obama just sending token non lethal aid.

He suffers from the same condition as Clinton and now Biden....they are all lawyers....they believe more in due process than in right and wrong. The classic case of Clinton not taking decisive preemptive action against the leader of AQ and Biden not wishing to give weapons who’s range exceeds the juridiction

 

[X Fan]

Critical article on state of US Military weapon systems in Ukraine (you can also argue that the Military has been caught up in the societal arguments festering in the USA too versus focusing on pathways to success in war):

Ukraine War rips veil off of US weapons superiority

Many of the failures, including the HIMARS, have been due to their reliance on GPS

responsiblestatecraft.org

 

[navguy12]

 

[navguy12]

 

[SwedishAdvocate]

Zelenskyi stated that the US has permitted Ukraine to use HIMARS to strike at the Kharkiv region's border but emphasized that this is insufficient. He noted that Russia launches attacks from bombers based at distant airfields, which Ukraine lacks the weapons and consent from allies to target.

x.com/NOELreports/status/1797170841936929259

https://twitter.com/x/status/1797170841936929259

 

[iPlug]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1797316399309701328

As to how:

One of the two canals connecting the Caspian Sea to the outside world is the Volga-Don Canal, which links it to the Black Sea via the Sea of Azov. This canal is 63 miles long and, as the name suggests, connects the Don and Volga Rivers. Its primary purpose is commercial transport.​

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However, during the spring and summer months, when the canal is not frozen, Russia uses it to move warships and military supplies between the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea. Ships from Russia’s Caspian Flotilla have played a direct role in supporting Russia’s invasion of Ukraine since 2022.​

NATO’s Black Sea Frontier Is the Southern Shore of the Caspian Sea

 

[tivoboy]

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Way to go Dallas!

 

[SwedishAdvocate]

Way to go Dallas!

Not following... Anyone that can explain?

 

[mongo]

Not following... Anyone that can explain?

It's a line from The Hunt For Red October...
Although, l'm not sure how it fits. IIRC, in the movie the submarine Dallas steers between Red October and a torpedo to get the torpedo to follow it.

 

[tivoboy]

Not following... Anyone that can explain?

 

[GWord]

It's a line from The Hunt For Red October...
Although, l'm not sure how it fits. IIRC, in the movie the submarine Dallas steers between Red October and a torpedo to get the torpedo to follow it.

“Bystander” military party suddenly actively assists a 3rd party conflict for the “good guys”?

 

[growler23]

From the latest Denys Davydov videos, it sure looks like the combination double punch of Himars and permissions to fire them into Russia proper (Kharkiv area only) have greatly impacted the Kharkiv front, in favor of Ukraine. Interested if others are reporting this as well.

 

[Dangerous Fish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1d70y4m/results_of_himars_strike_at_s300s400_in_belgorod

 

[DanCar]

According to CNN report the steel version of the abrams tank isn't performing well in Ukraine. Cheap drones have any easy time knocking them out.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/29/europe/ukraine-war-us-tanks-intl/index.html

Retired general says B.S. on complaints of Abrams not performing well, but doesn't address the main issue with cheap drones knocking out the tanks. Also doesn't address that the U.S. version has composite armor, where as Ukraine gets the steel version. 4 minutes into the video.