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SGIP Rebate Question - This Legit?
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They count the powerwalls as their output capacity I believe, so they are 5k each. (2) Powerwalls fit in the <10kW category
Ok cool; although the Residential Storage program is also under "General Market" and also out of money for PG&E's area. Guess we're too late to the SGIP party.
Unless you buy 3 Powerwalls most installers are out of SGIP funds for smaller installations.
3 Powerwalls goes in a different bucket. Most developers are out of money the 2 or less Powerwall bucket, most installers have plenty left in the large scale bucket with more than 2 Powerwalls.
3 Powerwalls goes in a different bucket. Most developers are out of money the 2 or less Powerwall bucket, most installers have plenty left in the large scale bucket with more than 2 Powerwalls.
Hmmm, PG&E says the Large Scale and related ITC bucket is only for commercial installations. Plus it only pays $0.25 or $0.35 kWh. Is there some other Large Scale residential program?
I feel like they couldn't have made this any more complicated... California Bureaucracy right here.
the consider "commercial" 3+ powerwalls from what I understood ((although I went through tesla, and only got 2 powerwalls). Whoever you are buying them from should tell you if they have monies available in that bucket.. its not something you apply for yourself in almost all cases. There are people who applied as a developer and did it themselves but that is very rare.
PTO application might be more expensive at the utility for that size as well.
The SGIP process isnt really supposed to be navigated by "us regular people", its your developer (installer) who is supposed to apply on your behalf, etc.
Currently today if you buy a 3 Powerwall system from us you are projected to get about $8,700 ($2,900 each) back from CA SGIP program. It is pretty confusing that's why we have a team dedicated to just the SGIP and interconnection process. All our customers do is sign the check.
I focus on the technical but am personally interested in this program is why I am learning more about it. The SGIP alone pays for the 3rd powerwall.
This is why the company I work for are not currently quoting 2 Powerwalls at all. With demand through the roof, we can barely serve the ones who want 3 or more, so 2 makes little sense in the current CA State rebate climate. We have installed a few 2 PW systems where SGIP was not available for one reason or another.
There's a lot of money left in this step (we are on step 4 I think) so the rebate wont go down for a while and then it will be incremental. Makes sense to sell as many buy 2 get 1 free Powerwall deals in the meantime.
I focus on the technical but am personally interested in this program is why I am learning more about it. The SGIP alone pays for the 3rd powerwall.
This is why the company I work for are not currently quoting 2 Powerwalls at all. With demand through the roof, we can barely serve the ones who want 3 or more, so 2 makes little sense in the current CA State rebate climate. We have installed a few 2 PW systems where SGIP was not available for one reason or another.
There's a lot of money left in this step (we are on step 4 I think) so the rebate wont go down for a while and then it will be incremental. Makes sense to sell as many buy 2 get 1 free Powerwall deals in the meantime.
Is that based on the General Market part of SGIP? That's what I see as from wading through the documents. We are nestled in a fire zone and have SoCalGas. I am not quite sure how SoCalGas is involved with powerwalls, but I'm not going to bother figuring that out if it applies.
Yes, that's our current customer rebate for general market. Its an estimate, but a very accurate one.
Can an individual apply for the SGIP or does the payment have to go to Tesla?
I am in process of getting 36 panels and 3 PWs.
I approved the Tesla layout, have an approved loan with Sunlight Financial and next step is Tesla applying for PGE permit according to my to do list in my account. I am in the fire zone and have a 94 year old mother with heat exhaustion issues. I would try for Equity Resiliency application.
Is this possible as I am already into the purchase process and loan.
I am in process of getting 36 panels and 3 PWs.
I approved the Tesla layout, have an approved loan with Sunlight Financial and next step is Tesla applying for PGE permit according to my to do list in my account. I am in the fire zone and have a 94 year old mother with heat exhaustion issues. I would try for Equity Resiliency application.
Is this possible as I am already into the purchase process and loan.
RKCRLR
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From a practical standpoint, Tesla needs to do it. You may not qualify for 3 Powerwall SGIP Residential Equity Resiliency incentives but you should be able to qualify for 2.
I would contact Tesla and ask about it. They have a person whose whole job is to work the SGIP incentives. As long as you qualify and funding remains, I don't see why Tesla can't do it after the fact.
I would love to get that info as well.
Not to burst you guys / gals bubble, but its "unlikely" that even if you got that name, they would even respond to you at all until they had a file with an order in front of them with your name on it, and were processing your paperwork.
Thats not the way tesla works, and trying to circumvent it like that will likely just make you frustrated. Just like you dont get to talk to the "designer" for your project in "Teslaland" you likely are not normally ever talking with the person who is processing that paperwork for tesla / you... not the real SME (subject matter expert) anyway.
if you want that type of contact, direction, etc, you are likely better off with a third party who is familiar with SGIP and used to processing them (and paying that upcharge the third party is going to charge for their infrastructure).
OP here. I’m going through Infinity Energy, Inc. and pulled the trigger today. PM and I can put you in contact with the rep who helped me. Customer service was very good and the company handles everything including applying for the rebates and permits and all that. My home is in Calaveras County California. I believe they service different parts of northern California.
hmm I got a personal solar specialist assigned last night and he send me his direct phone no. This is my first experience so not sure if that person would be of any help later on
hmm I got a personal solar specialist assigned last night and he send me his direct phone no. This is my first experience so not sure if that person would be of any help later on
Sure, I didnt say you wouldnt get someone assigned, I said that the person that was mentioned earlier for tesla who "specializes in processing SGIP" would not be someone who you could get a name from on a forum and have them actually respond to any contact attempts.
Tesla has people in call centers whose job it is to help you, but the "back end" people for tesla, like designers (and specialists who process SGIP paperwork for special programs) arent people who would reach out or return emails / contacts to people who they "didnt have a file for right in front of them".
RKCRLR
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This is correct. Tesla uses customer advisers to filter the communications. They put notes in the system, send emails to the correct representatives, etc. They rarely give out direct contact information and it is even rarer that one of them responds to an email. Communicating with Tesla is one of the most frustrating experiences you will go through.
If you think you want to use Tesla for Powerwalls, the best way is to put down a deposit (it is refundable) to get the ball rolling.
Purchasing Powerwalls directly from Tesla will be the least expensive. But if you qualify for the Residential Equity Resiliency incentive and you find a 3rd party installer that will install the Powerwalls for $13,200 each or less then there is no reason to go directly through Tesla. They will be free either way.
You are right. The person I got assigned is referred to as 'advisor'. As long as the advisor is proactive and can be easily communicated with, I am good. Also I prefer the same installed for panels and powerwalls. If I install PW separately then Tesla or any other installer will charge additional to link the panels and the powerwalls. Right now Tesla is offering a $1500 discount if I install the panels and PW together. So instead of $4000, I pay only $2500.
does anyone know how long these SGIP applications can be done after installation? do they have to be arranged entirely in advance of installation?
in theory we have medical baseline and as it turns out we only had one PSPS event last year. however, we are on such a slow boat with tesla that i'm sure we'll have another PSPS shutdown before our PWs are installed, which in theory would then make us eligible for SGIP ER.
on the other hand, i think from reading other threads i understood that tesla simply does not do this paperwork - is that right?
in theory we have medical baseline and as it turns out we only had one PSPS event last year. however, we are on such a slow boat with tesla that i'm sure we'll have another PSPS shutdown before our PWs are installed, which in theory would then make us eligible for SGIP ER.
on the other hand, i think from reading other threads i understood that tesla simply does not do this paperwork - is that right?
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