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Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by AudubonB, Dec 31, 2015.
Where's the trunkline? Is that somehow a hatch?
That red Model 3 looks like an old one. It's got the same rims as the first unveil and I believe Tesla said they're going to use the rims on the silver car, so it wouldn't make sense for Tesla to build new Model 3's with outdated rims.
The cutline is along the glass.
Elon on the MobilEye/Tesla split:
“This was expected and will not have any material effect on our plans. MobilEye’s ability to evolve its technology is unfortunately negatively affected by having to support hundreds of models from legacy auto companies, resulting in a very high engineering drag coefficient. Tesla is laser-focused on achieving full self-driving capability on one integrated platform with an order of magnitude greater safety than the average manually driven car.”
Translation: We decided to vertically integrate and make our own sensors and chips because MobilEye is too slow. We want to make a single, really good system, while MobilEye wants to make a less capable and bloated system they can sell to everyone - even to automakers that need a lot of hand holding.
There will be multiple rim designs with the 3 just as there are with the S. That's a prediction, but I think it's a pretty obvious one.
Fortune is also live-blogging the event: Live Blog: Tesla Unveils the Gigafactory
They posted this picture of the 3 out front:
Compared to this one from the reveal night:
Absolutely! Here's what I posted in one of the threads specifically discussing TSLA/MBLY split:
Elon on CC:
"One of the challenges we face is that for a lot of supply chains they're impedance-matched to the timeframe of the big OEMS, and Tesla just moves a lot faster than the big OEMS. And so, if they're impedance-matched to a typical sort of 6-year development cycle and we're on a 2- or 3-year development cycle, it just doesn't connect properly. Some suppliers can handle that, and some can't."
Mobileye couldn't deliver the next gen chip in time, so Tesla cut them out. It's that simple.
My feeling is that it might not be the same car. The red color looks a little different in shade (but that could be lighting) and the silver around the windows looks more matte in the Gigafactory shots and more chrome in the reveal shots.
I'm surprised Fortune got an invite.
Maybe so, but I'm pretty sure Tesla said these specific rims were an old design they weren't going to use.
Agree - the biggest difference for me are the front fog-lights(?) that you can't see on the reveal car but that are clearly visible on the car in front of the giga factory. My money would be on "different car"
Or use other vendors.
Tesla's rejection is a long-term concern for Mobileye
This is a problem for Mobileye, not for Tesla.
They were there in the reveal car.
Yes, different or modified. Is there is a round hole on the front 'bumper'? EDIT: My mistake ... Just the same as before.
They are different cars....reveal car has hatch split line much higher.
Why are we obsessed with if the car today is the same at reveal?
I dont think so:
The hatch split line is the same. Here is a better picture of the car from the reveal:
To determine if there are more than the 3 Model 3's we know about in existence today? If its not the same car, then it might be closer to the pencils down design.