TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

Signature vs. GP nose cone

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by KBF, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Messages:
    11,923
    Fwiw my sig has the rubbed cone, not the smooth one
     
  2. roblab

    roblab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,901
    Location:
    Angwin (Napa Valley) CA
    Dunno. Here's a pic with the panel removed. The red cover on the post shows the pos battery connection, but the battery is elsewhere. Please ignore Signature gaps and bugs.

    Nose battery connections 004 sm.JPG
     
  3. contaygious

    contaygious Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    988
    Location:
    Marina, San Francisco
    FYI I asked about the nose cone change at the factory and was told it is for aesthetic reasons and they were surprised when it changed after sigs already shipped.
     
  4. artsci

    artsci Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    4,529
    Location:
    Timonium, Maryland
    Did you remove the panel yourself? I'm thinking that maybe that the all of the pieces of the nose cone snap into place as this piece does. If so, it will make installation of a number of things much easier. What do you think?
     
  5. roblab

    roblab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,901
    Location:
    Angwin (Napa Valley) CA
    Yes, using a very dull butter knife. It just pops out with no effort. You can see where the clips seat.

    I think they did it for simplicity and cost (duh). I would think the whole nose would snap out and off easily. It gives access to things like frunk latch, wiring, etc. One piece is a lot cheaper than 3-5 pieces.
     
  6. dtich

    dtich #P708

    Joined:
    May 31, 2012
    Messages:
    428
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    hey, little thought for threads like this: i find it incredibly helpful to know the prod seq # and vin (if avail) when discussing differing aspects of delivered models, for tracking production changes.. would be great if those of you who don't have your prod # and vin in your signature or member dets (on the left with avatar) could include such in your posts.. esp those with pics.

    thanks!
     
  7. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,016
    Well, we compared mine with another local model S that had been delivered about 2 weeks earlier, and the nose cone is the same. So it appears the dividing line might be production vs. sig.
     
  8. Vger

    Vger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,656
    Location:
    Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
    Here is a comparison between the "old" nose, from one of Tesla's studio shots,
    Old Model S Nose.png

    and the "new" nose on my (as yet undelivered) Canadian Signature (VIN S02001):
    Ruby Nose.jpeg

    In addition to being aesthetically cleaner, the new nose should be aerodynamically cleaner, in a crucial spot-- the first part of the car to touch the wind.
     
  9. artsci

    artsci Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    4,529
    Location:
    Timonium, Maryland
    Thanks. Great to know. This means installation of the Passport radar detector and Blinder laser jammers will be much easier. I'm also thinking my EZPass transponder can attached under one of the upper nose cone plastic pieces.
     
  10. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Messages:
    11,923
    Makes you wonder why that change wasn't made sooner.
     
  11. gg_got_a_tesla

    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2010
    Messages:
    6,095
    Location:
    Redwood Shores, CA
    The timing may have been supplier related.

    Also, isn't the chrome line all across (including the V under the T logo) more pronounced/wider than it was before?
     
  12. Vger

    Vger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,656
    Location:
    Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
    I noticed that also.
     
  13. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    15,235
    Generally I like the look of the new cone better, but I wish they had kept the "bent emblem". The new one looks it is flat rather than following the curvature.
     
  14. David-El

    David-El Model S - P3078

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2012
    Messages:
    48
    Location:
    Fremont, CA
    They probably didn't want anyone to confuse it with a Bentley... (cue groans)
     
  15. SCW-Greg

    SCW-Greg Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    1,694
    Location:
    Beaverton, OR
    Just to add a more edge-on view of what's been posted already (Get Amped Series Sig)...

    IMG_1275m.jpg
     
  16. Grendal

    Grendal Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2012
    Messages:
    2,415
    Location:
    Santa Fe, New Mexico
    It might be that this picture explains the reason for the change to the new nosecone. If Tesla had originally intended to have a grill for the two upper pieces but then later discovered that the extra ventilation was not needed then switched to solid pieces for more aerodynamics. Then finally they switched to the current one piece for simplicity and even greater aerodynamics.
     
  17. artsci

    artsci Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    4,529
    Location:
    Timonium, Maryland
    Courtesy of Tesla service, here's an exploded view of the nose cone parts. If someone with the car (mine won't be delivered until April or May, otherwise I'd do it now) can pry off the large lower piece and photograph what's behind it, that would be a great help for all of use who are wondering if we can install a toll transponder in the space behind the nose cone.

    Screen Shot 2012-12-11 at 8.09.28 AM.png
     
  18. NielsChr

    NielsChr Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    264
    Location:
    Denmark
    the new one piece front cone looks more "burgler" proff - the one where you simply snap out a litle piece of plastic with a simple tool seams not safe - specifically if this gives you acess to shorten/discornect the 12 volt system and open the frunk latch.
    if someone needs access to the frunk, nothing will prevent them from gain access in less than 1 min. ....I do hope the frunk is equiped with some sort of alarm censor (I might be to worryed, so please ignore my posting)
    .
    Models S is a fast performance car, I guess some young poeple would like to take it for a quick spin, better make it damm difficult for them to get into it.
     
  19. artsci

    artsci Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    4,529
    Location:
    Timonium, Maryland
    I think entries without the Fob will set off all kinds of fireworks.
     
  20. DaveVa

    DaveVa Sig Perf #236 VIN #484

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    279
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    Has anyone tried to put their EZPass transponder in this area of the nosecone?
     

Share This Page