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Speed limit is wrong!
- Thread starter E-Lectric
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I found a thread on here a while ago purporting to have the database that Tesla used. I went to that website and reported the speed limit for a road I drive on that didn't have a listed limit in the Tesla and a couple weeks later the car had the correct speed limit!
Unfortunately, I cant' find the thread or that website, so this post isn't terribly useful.
Unfortunately, I cant' find the thread or that website, so this post isn't terribly useful.
M3BlueGeorgia
Active Member
Just use the right scroller, spin it to to go up or down by 5mph, spin it twice for 10 mph.
Do you even have a car?
On a non-divided highway you cannot set the AP to go more than 5mp over what it thinks the speed limit is..
There is no need to be rude, particularly when you are in the wrong.
timk225
Active Member
Do I have a car?
Yes I do have a 3, for 15 months now. On these speed limited roads it'll only allow me to go 5 over and that's not enough, especially when it thinks the limit is lower than it really is.
M3BlueGeorgia
Active Member
TACC, by itself, doesn't have that limitation, which is what we were referring to.
When you add AutoSteer and the car doesn't like the road markings, it'll limit you to 5mph over the limit.
My car is set to default to 10mph over the speed limit. On residential streets I often back this off by 5mph (one downward spin). On some other roads I might add 2 or 3 mph, but that's rare. Other roads I might back it off by 1 or 2 mph.
Also remember this is a maximum speed, as the car is usually driving a bit slower (sometimes a lot slower) because of the traffic in front of me.
To bring this back to the initial topic...
I submitted a request to [email protected] about the bad speed limits.
First answer was "reboot". Grrrr... Once I convinced them that both our model 3 and model s have the same issue...
I was asked to submit -
Disclaimer - it may take months to make it through the loop and back out to the car database.
I submitted a request to [email protected] about the bad speed limits.
First answer was "reboot". Grrrr... Once I convinced them that both our model 3 and model s have the same issue...
I was asked to submit -
- Road name/number
- Location (down to the intersection)
- nearest town/village/exit/feature/service station
- Direction of travel
- If it is an of-ramp of other interchange
- Also, could you provide a drop-pin location on Google Maps or similar?
Disclaimer - it may take months to make it through the loop and back out to the car database.
Andy O
Member
The right scroll wheel changes your cruise control speed. Isn't that what you just asked for?
So you guys will stop arguing, go to openstreetmap.org and edit the limits. As of early last year Tesla used open source services such as MapBox, Valhalla and openstreetmap.org Can someone prove this wrong?
If you are replying to me - no - I’m referring to the street having the wrong speed limit displayed on the speed limit sign on the dash. That data comes from a magic Tesla database.
I did go to openstreetmap.org. openstreetmap.org does not match what I am seeing on the Tesla.
Can someone prove it uses openstreetmap?
Doesn’t the warning screen for AutoPilot say it should not be used in that circumstance?
charliepmayer
Member
In my experience over about 6 years of S ownership, I find that speed limit inaccuracy becomes common in extremely rural areas.
This makes sense if Tesla has limited resources to address the issue.
I submitted speed limit bug reports for a year or two, but nothing changed, so I gave up and accepted the issue as another Tesla quirk.
So, if FSD really happens, will it use those inaccurate speed limits?
If so, your drive to Alpine Texas will be well below posted speed limits, and driving into Fort Davis will earn you a significant ticket, if not jail time. Well, maybe not jail, unless you spent too much time at one of the fine tinajas in the area.
Pretty sure this is not an isolated example. Only fix I see is speed limit sign recognition.
I suspect patent issues are why we don't already have that.
This makes sense if Tesla has limited resources to address the issue.
I submitted speed limit bug reports for a year or two, but nothing changed, so I gave up and accepted the issue as another Tesla quirk.
So, if FSD really happens, will it use those inaccurate speed limits?
If so, your drive to Alpine Texas will be well below posted speed limits, and driving into Fort Davis will earn you a significant ticket, if not jail time. Well, maybe not jail, unless you spent too much time at one of the fine tinajas in the area.
Pretty sure this is not an isolated example. Only fix I see is speed limit sign recognition.
I suspect patent issues are why we don't already have that.
That’s exactly it. This all started with the Tesla-Mobileye divorce several years ago.
timk225
Active Member
I can imagine the conversation and how it has gone.
Tesla to Mobileye - YOU'RE FIRED!!!
Years later.....
Tesla says "Hey Mobileye, we need to be able to read signs like it says in your patent".
Mobileye - "Oh Reeeeeeaaaaaallllllllyyyyy? Let's talk $$$$$ then, we are still a bit butthurt over that whole "You're Fired!" thing from a couple years ago".....
Tesla to Mobileye - YOU'RE FIRED!!!
Years later.....
Tesla says "Hey Mobileye, we need to be able to read signs like it says in your patent".
Mobileye - "Oh Reeeeeeaaaaaallllllllyyyyy? Let's talk $$$$$ then, we are still a bit butthurt over that whole "You're Fired!" thing from a couple years ago".....
No. TACC is not restricted by the manual. Autosteer is recommended to use on "highways and limited access roads".
Someone needs tweet verygreen as I'm guessing they know. Here are the stores that all seem to point to a combination of services.
Speed Limits: openstreetmap.org
Maps: MapBox
Navigation: Valhalla (Mapzen's Open Source Engine)
Is Tesla using OSM via MapBox, Valhalla? / Questions and Answers / OpenStreetMap Forum
How to update nav maps
Tesla's new 'light-years ahead' navigation and maps engine is 'almost done', says Elon Musk - Electrek
Speed Limits: openstreetmap.org
Maps: MapBox
Navigation: Valhalla (Mapzen's Open Source Engine)
Is Tesla using OSM via MapBox, Valhalla? / Questions and Answers / OpenStreetMap Forum
How to update nav maps
Tesla's new 'light-years ahead' navigation and maps engine is 'almost done', says Elon Musk - Electrek
Here is the coding from from Green - @greentheonly on Twitter
I don't know where specifically they pull from.
NA-2019.20-10487
valhalla_allagash_nam_schema_0305_03_05_2019_a665978_10487_03_05_2019_a665978_10487.pbf-tiles-1ee14c0.tar
import a665978
export a665978
build 1ee14c0
VE-3.0.0 common high/enu high/spm high/frc
I don't know where specifically they pull from.
NA-2019.20-10487
valhalla_allagash_nam_schema_0305_03_05_2019_a665978_10487_03_05_2019_a665978_10487.pbf-tiles-1ee14c0.tar
import a665978
export a665978
build 1ee14c0
VE-3.0.0 common high/enu high/spm high/frc
From Github on 1-19-2018 valhalla/valhalla-docs
The speed is assigned based on tags within the OpenStreetMap data as follows:
- max_speed: If a maxspeed tag is available from OSM, that speed is used as the routing speed and the speed_limit is set to that value.
- highway: If there is no maxspeed tag, then speed is based on the OSM highway tag. There are a default set of speeds for each highway tag. Note that future work involves implementing country-specific default speeds for highway tags.
- road density: The road density (the length of drivable roads in kilometers per square kilometer) at each node in the routing graph is estimated during Valhalla data import. The road density is used to determine if a road is in a rural or urban area. Roads in urban areas have their speed reduced if there is no maxspeed tag. In the future, this method may be replaced with a more accurate measure of rural versus urban regions, but density produces adequate results for now.
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