TMC was down last night when I got the fiery news from my would-be client. I was actually working on posting here first and was going to link from Twitter, but went back to Twitter when I couldn't.
Let's be 100% clear here in that this that it's NOT the error itself that is the issue. If you have the error present, you're safe.
This is ONLY an issue for people who have had the error "reset" in some way without addressing the root cause (which requires actual non-trivial physical work).
And here once again advocating for this completely unsafe practice AND trying to discredit those of us who know better?
The "economic interest" argument is completely ridiculous and uninformed. If it were in fact safe to offer a reset of these errors, that's effectively a service with nearly 100% profit margin. Instead, we're doing an incredible amount of work to be able to offer complete pack replacements with razor thin margins. You mean to tell me it's in my company's best interest to do all of that when we could be just offering a service that effectively costs us no capital or time instead and could probably charge about the same as we make in profit on a pack replacement? That's probably one of the most illogical things I've ever heard.
Plus, at least on my end, it'd be well in 057's economic interest to be able to just reset these errors. We offer
an extended service plan for Tesla Model S/X battery packs. If we could safely do a no-cost reset of these errors, which are by far the most common encountered under our service plan program, then our service plan program would be a literal money printer, since the fixes would cost us
nothing. Instead, we have a reserve and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of battery packs being processed so that we can do proper repairs/replacements of failing battery packs, which is quite expensive and a massive undertaking.
I'm sure
@Recell and Tesla themselves are in pretty much the same boat. Why expend resources on something like this, face the PR backlash, etc etc if you can just reset the error and carry on safely?
So yeah, I'm not getting the motivation for continuing to push this, and frankly it's getting kind of annoying and absurd to have to keep correcting you on this. I'm really getting tired of having to chase you around this forum spreading this incredibly careless advice. At what point are
YOU going to be liable for damages when someone follows that advice? Especially after you've been directly informed by multiple third party experts that it shouldn't be done? IANAL, but that seems incredibly reckless.
At least here on TMC, I'm reasonably certain my credibility in this field speaks for itself and folks here will pretty likely take my advice over yours, so there's that. But I'm unsure what your agenda is at this point aside from using TMC to drive people towards an external competing forum of sorts (your Facebook group that you administer), which I believe is in direct violation of TMC's ToS, by the way. It's one thing to post a link to something that may be of interest to members here, but another to keep driving people to an external forum you administer. (I would know, I was actually banned for doing something like this years ago.)
Bottom line, again, is that if you reset these errors without correcting the underlying physical issue, and then charge above the limit originally imposed, you're pretty much just striking a match every time. You might not get ignition immediately, but you're quite literally playing with fire. You do not want a Model S with this error reset sitting in your garage. You do not want your family in one of these cars that's had this error reset.
And like I said on Twitter, if you've done this "reset" or had it done by the third party or whatever the case may be, I
highly suggest seeking a proper repair or replacement. If you've lucked out and managed to drive a bit afterwards without issue, you've also probably increased the repair cost by damaging the battery further. Seriously, park it. Away from anything important, discharge to < 50% (use climate keeper, HI setting, windows open, fan at 9 on not-recirculate), and seek help. I don't care if that's from me. Safety first. Get help from 057. Get help from Tesla. Get help from
@Recell ... I don't care, but don't keep using the car. While I knew the odds of a catastrophe were non-zero, it's worse than even I estimated, and now have in-the-wild data to point to on it.
