whttiger25
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Even then, it's a much better experience than in a car without adaptive cruise control and/or autopilot.After 46,000 miles on my S, my only anxiety is when I'm stuck behind someone in a no passing zone...
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Even then, it's a much better experience than in a car without adaptive cruise control and/or autopilot.After 46,000 miles on my S, my only anxiety is when I'm stuck behind someone in a no passing zone...
Warning - newbie post. Some concerns may be self-inflicted.
I have an S3 on order. Out of the blue Tesla offered me 24-hour test drive in a model S. Even though I've never driven an EV before, how can you turn that down?
I decided to take a day trip to visit my son in Cleveland (I am in Columbus), maybe 120 miles each way. According to the map and charge, I could have made it with a 10% charge remaining. Being the newb, that felt too tight. So I stopped at the Super Charger in Mt Gilead - got 20 minutes worth of charge. All was well - destination reserve now said something like 40%.
Again, being conservative, once there I stopped at the Super Charger in Macedonia, which is about 10 miles from my son. There are 6 slots there and another Tesla was in #2. I started to back into #4 and the owner from the other car came over and said "slots #3 through #6 charge slowly and suggested I not use those". I thanked her and moved to slot #1 next to her car. Plugged in and I have the green quick flash at the connector so I assume all is well. I go browse Best Buy for 30 minutes.
I come back, the other lady is gone. I'm halfway back to my son's house when I realize I had not received a charge at all - nada. It was the same as when I arrived. Again, it could be "user error" but I am positive I had the fast green flash when I first connected - I don't recall if it was flashing or not when I returned.
Later in the day, my son and I return to the Macedonia Super Charger as I want more "juice" for the trip back. This time there is an unattended S3 in slot #6. I park in #4, plug in, get the fast green flash, and this time check the car's display. After several minutes, with 30% still in the car, the charge rate was just shy of 20 megawatts - that feels very low. By the way this was a 70D.
We didn't have a lot if time so we only got 15 minutes of this slow charge. The map on the return trip nicely advised to recharge at Mt Gilead again, where I would arrive with 10% reserve - that felt "tight" but I took it. Arrived safely and connected - got a charge rate of 98 Megawatts. That finally seemed right.
To end my saga, the Tesla dealer in Columbus is nearly impossible to find in the middle of a crowded, upscale, outdoor, yuppie mall - so I left but forgot to put it in the GPS. I think "no problem - I can list Tesla super charger locations with one button" as I know they have chargers in the parking garage. Well, no. For some reason these super chargers are not on Tesla"s map.
I love the car. I can manage any range anxiety, but now I have some super charger anxiety. Again, being a newb, I accept I may have done some things wrong.
Questions:
1. Do you guys "verify" you are getting a charge on the display when you plug in? Or is the green flash sufficient?
2. I'm kinda assuming the Macedonia charging station has some issues. Are broken super chargers a common problem? How are they reported?
3. If going to a new city, what "reserve" level do you not go below? Especially considering that the SC may not be working?
4. What range of charging rates do you typically see?
5. Does Tesla keep some "hidden" super chargers like they apparently do here in Columbus?
Thanks!
Kevin
I once got a charge rate of 1.21 gigawatts. It was crazy what happened next...
Wow! Tough crowd. You may be right. May our paths never cross! I am humbled at your perfection!So to summarize, you're taking a car on a test drive, you stop at a supercharger, spend 30 minutes, then leave and it's not until you're driving for 5 miles that you realize you didn't add any miles?
You might be better off in an ICE.
My local service center has 6 supercharger ports. Have also stopped at one in the San Jose area that had about 10 ports and of course the factory has a larger # of superchargers. I've also used a supercharger in front of a service center somewhere in the Los Angeles area.Well, there actually are, but they are so rare, that most people have never heard of such a thing--you can count them on one hand that exist in the world. It is a crazy stroke of coincidence that a brand new owner test driving happened to come across this one at the Macedonia service center. The other one is at the service center in Hamburg Germany. You can see them if you look at the map at www.supercharge.info. They are shown with a dot that is half black and half red, showing that it is limited access and hours. So, @KArnold , that is a weird one-off situation you will probably never see anywhere else.
*edit* Oh, looks like a missed a couple more in Europe. Traun Austria and Munich have them too. But I think that one near Cleveland is the only one in the U.S.
Wow! Tough crowd. You may be right. May our paths never cross! I am humbled at your perfection!
Are you sure about your numbers and calculations? (I suspect you're using 85 numbers rather than 90 numbers.)And consider this: The 75(D), the 'smallest' battery you can get today, has 72.6 kWh of usable capacity. The 90D has 81.8 kWh usable – that is just 9 kWh more; not 15 as one might think.
I wish. Those numbers are from this forum's very own @wk057, here (more here); and yes, my "calculations" were a bit rough. The 90D has 9.2 kWh more usable energy than the 75D. Yay!Are you sure about your numbers and calculations? (I suspect you're using 85 numbers rather than 90 numbers.)
I concur! Still, I take 82 kWh net capacity on a '90' pack as a fact. @wk057 actually took apart a battery pack, down to the cell level, and then multiplied back up to arrive at total capacity. I just can't find it anymoreWhat matters is actual miles driven.
It's most likely closer to 16% more.Gah! I don't really care about the _absolute_ capacity of any of the packs. What I care about is that the 100D has 20% more capacity than the 90D, rather than just 11%. Because that's enough reason for me to upgrade.