Supercharger - Fort Worth, TX - North Freeway

[Guacahummus]

Edit 23 March 2023: Real permit
https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/Project/TABS2023014854

Not a lot of info to go off on this one, but there was an Electrical Permit issued yesterday by the City of Fort Worth at the Buc-ee's at 15901 North Fwy, Fort Worth, TX 76177. Nothing in the permit implies or points to Superchargers but since its a new permit at a Buc-ee's, I figured its for Superchargers. There was also the following in the permit:

ELECTRICAL
Receptacles: 15
Air Conditioner: 3 - 5 Ton: 1
Transformer: Over 20 KW: 1
Total Item(s): 17

https://accela.fortworthtexas.gov/C...pID3=00D5J&agencyCode=CFW&IsToShowInspection=

 

[loan-potato]

Yes there is going to be a Supercharger there. Buc-ees signed a deal with Tesla, all their locations except the mini store in Giddings will have a Supercharger.

 

[Munky.]

Yes there is going to be a Supercharger there. Buc-ees signed a deal with Tesla, all their locations except the mini store in Giddings will have a Supercharger.

Can you show me proof that all but that one will get it? It's not that I don't believe you but there's 10 Buc-ee's in the Angleton/Lake Jackson/Freeport area and I find it a little hard to believe they'll all get superchargers.

 

[Guacahummus]

Can you show me proof that all but that one will get it? It's not that I don't believe you but there's 10 Buc-ee's in the Angleton/Lake Jackson/Freeport area and I find it a little hard to believe they'll all get superchargers.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/6133062

Not sure why they stated just Giddings won't get one. There's 35 Texas Buc-ee's on their location page, but the agreement only has 16 Texas locations. Unless there's another page in the agreement that we're not privy to.

 

[Mrbrock]

Not a lot of info to go off on this one, but there was an Electrical Permit issued yesterday by the City of Fort Worth at the Buc-ee's at 15901 North Fwy, Fort Worth, TX 76177. Nothing in the permit implies or points to Superchargers but since its a new permit at a Buc-ee's, I figured its for Superchargers. There was also the following in the permit:

https://accela.fortworthtexas.gov/C...pID3=00D5J&agencyCode=CFW&IsToShowInspection=

While it is on the list, that looks like an interior remodel. A supercharger wouldn’t have 15 receptacles. Or an AC unit. Receptacles and charging posts are not the same in terms of a permit. And the transformer would be much much larger than 20kw.

 

[Guacahummus]

Finally have a Buc-ee's permit

https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/Project/TABS2023014854

Value of $420,000 probably makes this a big boi. Houston-Yale value was $400,000 and has 32 stalls. Temple value was $450,000 and has 48 stalls.

 

[AustinM3LR]

Seems odd this is listed on Supercharge.info as a 72KW urban Supercharger location. Is that verified somewhere or an error?

Edit: ....aaaannnd now it's fixed.

 

[Guacahummus]

I stand corrected. Not a big boi

Tesla, Inc. is proposing to install an electric vehicle charging station within the existing parking lot of Buc-ee's. The project includes the installation of (5) Tesla Pre-Assembled Supercharging Units (PSU) each with (1) Supercharger cabinet, (1) 600A service disconnect and (4) charge posts. Install (1) utility transformer foundation.

https://aca-prod.accela.com/CFW/Ca...pID3=00DUF&agencyCode=CFW&IsToShowInspection=

 

[brkaus]

That's 20 pedestals. Not too bad.

 

[durrettcustoms]

I stand corrected. Not a big boi



Accela Citizen Access

Even 20 doesn't make sense. At a cost of $420K this would be a massive expense for 20 posts...maybe its V4? The SQ FT listed matches fewer posts but compared to the Temple Buc-ee's getting 48 at $450K just doesn't add up....

 

[Mrbrock]

$420k for 20 stalls seems high. An 8 stall non-PSU typically is listed at $150k on permits. 2.5x that is $375k and these are PSU which should be cheaper. Also, parking stalls are 180 sq ft each so now way the entire site is 800 sq ft.

 

[Mrbrock]

I guess if you just count the actual PSU units they would fit in 800 sq ft. 40ft wide by 4 ft deep is 160 x 5 is 800. And according to this the cost of construction minus all the electrical work (wire and wiring) is only $126k.

 

[brkaus]

Even 20 doesn't make sense. At a cost of $420K this would be a massive expense for 20 posts...maybe its V4? The SQ FT listed matches fewer posts but compared to the Temple Buc-ee's getting 48 at $450K just doesn't add up....

Perhaps just a mistake. One part or the other.

 

[Electroman]

And according to this the cost of construction minus all the electrical work (wire and wiring) is only $126k.

Maybe they need to grease some palms... ?

 

[Guacahummus]

Record PB23-03810:
Commercial New Accessory Structure
Record Status: Approved

https://aca-prod.accela.com/CFW/Ca...pID3=00DUF&agencyCode=CFW&IsToShowInspection=

 

[Guacahummus]

 

[Mrbrock]

7000ft of 500mcm AL wiring!!! $25k at $3.59/ft. Do these PSU not require a switchgear cabinet? I thought I remember seeing those but maybe this one is integrated into the utility transformer?

 

[TSemi]

Hoping for Option #2

 

[RickParker]

Hoping for Option #2

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If V4s are for Semis, there is not pull thru lanes. No other V4s are in the system per the Data tab on supercharger. Fingers crossed.. Just say an AZ location will have a V4 on a google search.

 

[Mrbrock]

If V4s are for Semis, there is not pull thru lanes. No other V4s are in the system per the Data tab on supercharger. Fingers crossed.. Just say an AZ location will have a V4 on a google search.

That location was Dateland because they drawings for the "alternate post" were in site plans. People automatically assumed it would be used. Just like all the battery day hype. Until we start seeing the V4 posts delivered, assume all sites will be V3. And even then, they will first go to sites where they have promised various municipalities that they will be open to all vehicle types in exchange for obtaining their site leases.

V4s are not for semis. V4 is megawatt capable but are not "Megachargers" intended for Semis which are only being installed at warehouse locations where Semis are based. Currently V4 is a variation of V3 with higher voltage capability along with slightly higher ampacity to allow for higher kw charging for capable cars.