Yeah my wife always tells me that. She did that job for a company that has a loyal off road following. There is a huge difference. Sorry. I blend the two like my smoothie in the morning.
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Supercharger - Kalispell, MT (under construction Apr 2024, 8 V4 stalls)
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My wife and I are headed to Glacier in a few weeks. Found an AirBnB in Columbia Falls with a 14-50 outlet to avoid issues with full hotel/public chargers. Use the EV charger filter on the site to find options. Beware though I discovered upon inquiry that one place that listed a charger as an amenity had only a 120V outlet.
benswing
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Turned off sentry mode and cabin overheat and went from 133 miles on July 15th to 130 miles on July 20th. Much better than expected.
tharasix
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When is your stay? I'm pretty sure we're staying at the same place from August 8-11.
StealthP3D
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Maybe Tesla should have a maximum anti-vampire mode (or garlic mode). When you get out of the car you can just hit the clove of garlic icon and be assured of having minimum vampire drain until you put it into drive again.
StealthP3D
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That's not true. Why would a Tesla representative have to come before the local authorities for approval if they didn't have to sign off for it?
A few months ago I found the meeting minutes on-line and it was apparent that the powers to be didn't like some unspecified thing about the exact location. From what I've seen it's most likely anti-EV interests that made this location die. Sure, Tesla could be more aggressive but they have to rely upon the people they hire in each region to "give birth" to new charging locations. It could be they hired the wrong person. That could easily burn 2-3 years before it became apparent you needed to hire someone else. It's not hard to string these things out since they need approval and any representative for Tesla could blame the delay on that.
When I lived in Whitefish, Kalispell had a reputation of being even more conservative. They hated liberals and people that think like that associate EV's with everything liberal, things they hate to their core. Yes, I know EV's are not liberal or conservative, they just make good sense, but not everyone knows that. Some people make it their life mission to resist this "terrible liberalism" that they view as "taking over their country".
Tesla has the money and the desire to expand the SC network in this area but something has stymied it. There is no doubt the damage to the Flathead economy is in the millions of dollars per year. A Supercharger station would bring a steady stream of tourists with money to spend. These people doing this are so short-sighted but they think they are doing a good thing. Pure ignorance.
Swung by the Super 1 earlier today. Zero sign of any SC-related construction. Looks like it’s on hold indefinitely, which is a damn shame because there are any good charging options nearby as they’ve started locking the Destination Charger at the Red Lion Hotel with a bike lock… probably to prevent non-guests using it.
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StealthP3D
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That seems like a lot of work to continually lock and unlock that charge connection simply to save a little electricity. Because it gets a lot of regular use from actual hotel guests. If they didn't want others using it they should have just put a sign there saying, "For hotel guests only - We actively prosecute theft of electricity." I would think that would cause unauthorized use to fall rather dramatically and it would be a lot more convenient for hotel employees and guests.
But I guess making a sign is too much work.
Another option would be to install one of the new gen 3 wall connectors that allows the usage to be billed directly to the Tesla's account. That way the hotel owner wouldn't have to pay for the electricity anymore.That seems like a lot of work to continually lock and unlock that charge connection simply to save a little electricity. Because it gets a lot of regular use from actual hotel guests. If they didn't want others using it they should have just put a sign there saying, "For hotel guests only - We actively prosecute theft of electricity." I would think that would cause unauthorized use to fall rather dramatically and it would be a lot more convenient for hotel employees and guests.
But I guess making a sign is too much work.
I doubt it's for electricity cost. Well, maybe it is somewhat. My guess is that a guest wanted to use it and couldn't because someone else was. I personally would never plug into a hotel or other destination charger unless I was staying there or had clear permission.
StealthP3D
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That would still allow non-guests to occupy the space and, since it would no longer be theft of electricity, it would probably make the problem worse, not better.
Besides, the hotel offers EV charging as a perk of staying there and the cost to do so is very low relative to the room rates.
Has that functionality finally been implemented? If so, does the owner set the price through the wall connector configuration and how do they get paid?
The functionality exists but it isn't being used widely so far: Getting billed for using a normal looking wall connector? and it was announced over a year ago: Tesla pushes to upgrade Destination Chargers with Gen 3 Wall Connectors, enables paid charging
Yes, they removed it back in April.It looks like Tesla officially removed the placeholder for this location on their supercharger map
Oops, sorry I missed that. We’re planning on going next August. Thanks to the many posts on this thread, it seems like it will be doable with a long range model Y, but not super easy.
darknavi
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My dad has property ~8 miles out of Kalispell with a small shed and 200A service. Is there a way to install a DC fast charger without it being prohibitively expensive?
Doable, but you're looking at spending at least $10,000 for the equipment.
Your best value, if you aren't in major hurry, is to install a wall connector or two on the shed. You could even make them publicly available on PlugShare and recover some costs through Tesla's billing system (coming soon).
ElectricIAC
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You would need 480V service at 500A (125% of 400A peak) just to power a single two stall V2 cabinet.
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