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Supercharger - San Diego, CA (Qualcomm / Pacific Heights Blvd., 12 V2 stalls)
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Well, technically speaking, they've made progress, so yes, albeit in a two steps forward, one step back sort of way.
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Even if that were the case, it's still wrong for charging, assuming a handicap driver. There would be no way (or it would be very difficult) for the driver to get out of the car, if there is another car parked on the driver side. Maybe the assumption was the car would be front it. Or more likely, someone just didn't think about it.
Crosswalk is in correct location - the blue handicapped painting should be on the other side of the crosswalk.
I disagree. One charging cable is situated such that you must be parked in the crosswalk for it to reach the car. Presumably, parking in a blue crosswalk is equivalent to parking in blue parking space, when it comes to fines.
Tyl
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I think the crosswalk will have to curve into where the handicap parking stall should be. The crosswalk is currently going into a parking stall.
davewill
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No, a car would have to be parked on the current crosswalk in order to reach that Supercharger. I think they may end up having to move one of the SCs. If the crosswalk is supposed to be on the drivers' side when backed in for charging, then it's on the wrong side now. The only way I can see to get it on the right side would be to put the blue space on the very end next to the curb and bend the crosswalk over to it, but it will then NOT be the closest space to the curb cut, and presumably the entrance which is probably required. If the crosswalk stays on the current side then they just need to slide it over until the space lines up correctly with the SC and they're done.
I once had a conversation with the owner of a little strip mall that had two J1772s installed with a similarly misplaced HC spot. He had it all mapped out, so that the HC spot shared one of the units with a regular space nice and neat but the city made him place the handicapped crosswalk in such a way that the J1772 was smack dab in the middle of the crosswalk and the regular spot was too far for the cable to stretch. People ended up parking in the crosswalk. The guy should have moved the EVSE, but he wasn't willing spend any more money on the install.
I once had a conversation with the owner of a little strip mall that had two J1772s installed with a similarly misplaced HC spot. He had it all mapped out, so that the HC spot shared one of the units with a regular space nice and neat but the city made him place the handicapped crosswalk in such a way that the J1772 was smack dab in the middle of the crosswalk and the regular spot was too far for the cable to stretch. People ended up parking in the crosswalk. The guy should have moved the EVSE, but he wasn't willing spend any more money on the install.
I think they screwed something else up, too. When they moved the peninsula on the island (see the patch of new asphalt on my photo above), they lined it up with the peninsula on the other side. The other peninsulas on this island (not visible in the picture) do not generally line up, because they are optimizing the number of parking spaces. With the new peninsula location, they've made the charging stalls extra wide on the far side of the island, while on the near side, where the extra-wide blue stall is, the other stalls will have to be extra narrow. And they've probably lost a non-charging parking space on the far side, as well.
For those who are interested, here is the City of San Diego Technical Policy 11B-1 that outlines the requirements for Accessibility at EV Charging Stations...
http://www.sandiego.gov/development-services/pdf/industry/tpolicy11b1.pdf
garygid
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Ok, I see now. Handicap space should be against curb on far left and walkway moved one width to left. Then driver has room to exit and all stalls line up.
garygid
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That's exactly correct! The way they have this set-up now is for the handicap car to pull in head first, and exit onto the handicap walkway. That obviously does not work for these stalls. By moving the spot all the way over, and the walkway exactly "one width to left" as you mentioned, the driver can back in correctly and exit the driver's side onto the handicap walkway. The other spots will then also be lined up correctly with the pedestals. My guess is this was the actual design (seems obvious) and someone did not read the plans. My next guess is this is the same guy who planned the original conduit.
garygid
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Ignoring the pavement markings, one wonders if the SDG&E transformer has been placed,
and cables pulled through from the "street" to actually power the 6 Supercharger units.
Perhaps we can get a picture tomorrow of the transformer pad to guess at the progress
there. Or, maybe the job forman knows when power will be available for final testing?
and cables pulled through from the "street" to actually power the 6 Supercharger units.
Perhaps we can get a picture tomorrow of the transformer pad to guess at the progress
there. Or, maybe the job forman knows when power will be available for final testing?
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