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Supercharger - Sparks, NV
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ItsErik
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DeepBlueMN
2019 AWD Model 3
Tesla often does maintenance 1 cabinet / 4 stalls at a time, so that a whole 8 stall site does not need to be completely down. But, a V4 upgrade is a different animal. Looks like they are replacing HV wiring too, but probably are leaving the existing V3 charging cabinets in place, unless this happens to be the premiere site for V4 charging cabinets!
Doubtful on the cabinets. They are doing new V4 with V3 cabinets and there has been no indication that they need to change the cabinets to enable V4 because currently it is more just a different format post with longer cable and the ability to upgrade later. V4 on the plans does show larger gauge wiring so I guess they would have to pull new wires for each post and from the cabinets to the switchgear. Makes for a longer install but maybe this is the test case.
I think potential leaves Some doubt as to whether this will be V4. We have definitive proof of charge posts on site and a permit with V4 mentioned by name.
EverydayEV
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v3 charging posts have used 350MCM AL wire to the posts. Specs for v4 posts use 600MCM AL wire instead. So yes, they need to pull new wire.
I was just reviewing the Danvers, MA site plan I found last year and came across this little detail confirming the charging bases they've adopted and have been installing in many sites over the past year are absolutely being done with v3-->v4 post replacements in mind.
I was just reviewing the Danvers, MA site plan I found last year and came across this little detail confirming the charging bases they've adopted and have been installing in many sites over the past year are absolutely being done with v3-->v4 post replacements in mind.
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DeepBlueMN
2019 AWD Model 3
Yeah, I agree on the cabinets. Elon has said that V3 cabinets can do ~324kW, and others have stated 1000v capability, but I don’t know if we will see the promised 350kW until V4 cabinets show up somewhere, but I guess with the existing 600+ amp capability, plus the potential of 1000v, certainly means that V3 cabinets may indeed easily hit 350kW+… Who knows… (Definitely need the bigger wiring and the V4 stalls though.)
Plus, we need to see the charging specs of the CyberTruck, or maybe a Magic Dock + 800v+ car will set a new supercharger record!
DeepBlueMN
2019 AWD Model 3
DeepBlueMN
2019 AWD Model 3
Sorry, there are a lot of speculated/estimated V4 specs on TMC threads and on YouTube, and some actual site plans have been posted too, so I won’t try to re-recite them, but they do show that V4 charging pylons are notably different (not just visually) than V3 ones.
Have site plans with actual power specs of V4 been posted? I know they have put the wiring plans for the alternate posts in most recent plans, but I have not seen electrical specs for V4 posts, only V3 cabinets. As we know, the posts don't control the power so the magic is in the cabinets. V4 posts can handle higher amperage which is why they require 600mcm vs 350mcm for V3.
Sorry, there are a lot of speculated/estimated V4 specs on TMC threads and on YouTube, and some actual site plans have been posted too, so I won’t try to re-recite them, but they do show that V4 charging pylons are notably different (not just visually) than V3 ones.
I'm not aware of any v4 cabinet specs being circulated - IF any exist, they are likely only in europe so far where the european version of the v4 posts have been going up for a bit.
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