Superchargers in Northern California (location speculation)

[israndy]

The down side of owning a plane, you get to your destination and you are stuck at the airport. Almost the only reason to fly was to eat at the various airport cafes. Friends would get sick of driving out to the airport to get me

 

[jboy210]

The down side of owning a plane, you get to your destination and you are stuck at the airport. Almost the only reason to fly was to eat at the various airport cafes. Friends would get sick of driving out to the airport to get me

We used it for business travel and some times for personal travel. We had people working in smaller towns, and you could get to several of those in a day versus several days by flying commercially.

 

[MY2021f]

For the CA grant which the Willows site is part of 50% of the stalls have to be available for CCS. From this article here Tesla to build the world's biggest CCS-compatible Supercharger locations with Magic Docks

If 50% of the stalls are CCS hopefully put them all together, for when they park backwards and take up two stalls each.

 

[Ckerr]

If 50% of the stalls are CCS hopefully put them all together, for when they park backwards and take up two stalls each.

Maybe by then Tesla will be installing the V4 chargers which have longer cables to help address reaching charging ports of other cars.

 

[MY2021f]

Maybe by then Tesla will be installing the V4 chargers which have longer cables to help address reaching charging ports of other cars.

Maybe you're right! Tesla is deploying its first Supercharger V4, and it's huge
I wonder if current 250 kW cars can be charged at 350 kW, or if that's just for Cybertruck.

 

[Mrbrock]

Maybe by then Tesla will be installing the V4 chargers which have longer cables to help address reaching charging ports of other cars.

The cables are not going to be 10ft+ longer to enable reaching all plug in locations. There will still be issues with blocking multiple stalls for non Tesla.

 

[israndy]

It would be nice if they just figured out which side the cord goes on, seems they have no standard between the post being in the 'back and to the left'* with the cord hanging on the left side of the post or with the cord hanging on the right side of the post, OR having it beside the car again with the cord hanging from the back of the post or hanging from the front of the post.

All of these options lead to different distances to the port in the car where it plugs in. If all of them are in reach of a Tesla it makes no nevermind to Tesla owners, but it could make a big difference to an F150 owner who might prefer that last one.

*JFK joke

 

[wws]

It would be nice if they just figured out which side the cord goes on, seems they have no standard between the post being in the 'back and to the left'* with the cord hanging on the left side of the post or with the cord hanging on the right side of the post, OR having it beside the car again with the cord hanging from the back of the post or hanging from the front of the post.

All of these options lead to different distances to the port in the car where it plugs in. If all of them are in reach of a Tesla it makes no nevermind to Tesla owners, but it could make a big difference to an F150 owner who might prefer that last one.

*JFK joke

From a simple human factors point of view, it seems to me the best place for a charge port is exactly where Tesla has it. That is, the drivers side rear.

Assuming the driver of the car is generally the one who plugs in the charging cable: You open your door, rotate 90 degrees to get out. Which corner of the car is easiest to then access? Drivers front requires moving around the door, or worse yet, closing it, then reopening it. Passenger side requires running around the car. Drivers side rear simply requires moving to the rear of the car.

Even ICE cars have this problem. I own four ICE cars - two fill on the left, and two, annoyingly, fill on the right. You'd think after 120+ years of ICE cars, they'd have figured it out by now...

 

[israndy]

Why did you quote MY post about the non-standard positioning of the Supercharger posts and then go on to only talk about the positioning of the port on non-Tesla EVs

 

[Mrbrock]

From a simple human factors point of view, it seems to me the best place for a charge port is exactly where Tesla has it. That is, the drivers side rear.

Assuming the driver of the car is generally the one who plugs in the charging cable: You open your door, rotate 90 degrees to get out. Which corner of the car is easiest to then access? Drivers front requires moving around the door, or worse yet, closing it, then reopening it. Passenger side requires running around the car. Drivers side rear simply requires moving to the rear of the car.

Even ICE cars have this problem. I own four ICE cars - two fill on the left, and two, annoyingly, fill on the right. You'd think after 120+ years of ICE cars, they'd have figured it out by now...

Are the cars that fill on the right european? When they swap right hand drive for left they don’t switch anything else so that is probably why you get filling on both sides.

 

[wws]

Are the cars that fill on the right european? When they swap right hand drive for left they don’t switch anything else so that is probably why you get filling on both sides.

One is GM (Chevy Volt) and the other is European (Porsche 944). The two that fill on the left are both GM (Chevy and Buick).

 

[wws]

Why did you quote MY post about the non-standard positioning of the Supercharger posts and then go on to only talk about the positioning of the port on non-Tesla EVs

No offense intended. Just seemed relevant to the whole "where to place the port and where to position the cables" discussion...

 

[Mrbrock]

One is GM (Chevy Volt) and the other is European (Porsche 944). The two that fill on the left are both GM (Chevy and Buick).

A lot of German cars fill on the right. It does make sense from an infrastructure point of view that you use less space if your pumps are against a wall and you pull up to them from the left side on a traffic on the right roadway. Buildings can be closer to the road when land is at a premium.

 

[smartypnz]

Shoulda just placed 'em all behind rear license plate

(Can't believe I posted in a thread over 1000.)

 

[wwu123]

Shoulda just placed 'em all behind rear license plate

(Can't believe I posted in a thread over 1000.)

Yup, and that's where the gas cap was on my first car (1969 model year), center rear, right above the license plate.

I liked how Costco solves the ICE gas station pump issue though - their pump hoses hang partially from above, and are so darn long you can reach either side of a vehicle regardless of which side of the pump you lined up on...

 

[MY2021f]

Shoulda just placed 'em all behind rear license plate

(Can't believe I posted in a thread over 1000.)

The leaf had it front center, which was pretty convenient

 

[ken830]

Center (front or rear) would be horrible for at home charging...

 

[e645824]

The Q2 Tesla supercharger voting is now open:

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting?v=2​

There aren't very many choices this quarter. There is a pin in a great spot just before the climb over the Altamont Pass on the interstate:

Scott

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2021 Tesla Model Y Long Range, red/white, tow

 

[wws]

One of my neighbors would like one in Sonora. There are some L2 charging stations at the hospital, but that is about it. Copperopolis and Groveland are not convenient (20-something driving miles each way). So if anyone can add that as a suggestion for the next voting cycle, it would make her happy.

 

[israndy]

I did the first two rounds, but this time there wasn't a way I found to add a location to be voted on. I too feel there is a GREAT road for Teslas to make it over the Sonora pass to NV, but w/o charging in Sonora it's dicey getting enough range.