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Tesla forced an update of my P85D to 2019.16.2

thecloud

As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
Nov 24, 2014
1,771
1,627
Sunnyvale, CA
Forced Updates By Tesla, After Owner Explicitly Declined The Unwanted Update

DateOwnerNotes
2019-05-29HankLloydRightPost 3703262
2019-06-07FlatSix911Post 3732560
2019-06-15swegman Post 3755529
2019-06-22SeattlePost 3775297
2019-10-12KnightOwlPost 4106329
2019-10-12mvotbPost 4106930
2019-10-12⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️Post 4107444

Not a lot of data, but an interesting spike in activity this weekend.
 

Battpower

Supporting Member
Oct 10, 2019
1,958
1,938
Uk
So far we have never heard of Tesla denying anyone warranty service because they didn't perform the (now unnecessary) annual service.
I don't think they need any more reasons to deny claims! When 'contact with its environment' is grounds for claim denial, I think Tesla are well covered.
 

Battpower

Supporting Member
Oct 10, 2019
1,958
1,938
Uk
Is this a new thing somewhere else?
Not really new.... just all stuff going around on here. eg: Model 3 paint claims - no paint / rust being explained by Tesla as exposure to air and therefore normal wear and tear. If 'exposure to air / gas' is a warranty exclusion, then no need for any more exclusions.
 
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HankLloydRight

No Roads
Jan 18, 2014
12,863
10,865
Connecticut
You might as well do it. I haven't read anything about V10 being any worse than V9.

I've just gotten into the habit with software updatable devices (cars, phones, TVs, servers, laptops, cameras, watches, etc) to wait for a few dot releases after a major upgrade. I'm never in any rush to get new features (life goes on just fine) and it's worth the wait to avoid and x.0.0 release bugs or pitfalls. Like that one time Apple released an iPhone upgrade that was bricking phones. :rolleyes:
 

Azathoth

Member
Aug 25, 2016
31
54
So. California
I got my forced update (from V8 ver. 2018.34.1 to 2019.32.12.1) yesterday morning. Then 12 hours later I got another update notice for 2019.32.12.2 (which, as many have reported, fired off the car alarm when the update was 80% installed!)

Resigned myself to the clunkier V9/V10 UI, but at least I can keep the rear cam on screen (which was the deal killer back when V9 first appeared, but later "Mostly" fixed). My 90D lease is ending, so I need to bite the bullet anyway when I get a new Raven.
 
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thecloud

As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
Nov 24, 2014
1,771
1,627
Sunnyvale, CA
I got my forced update (from V8 ver. 2018.34.1 to 2019.32.12.1) yesterday morning. Then 12 hours later I got another update notice for 2019.32.12.2 (which, as many have reported, fired off the car alarm when the update was 80% installed!)

Resigned myself to the clunkier V9/V10 UI, but at least I can keep the rear cam on screen (which was the deal killer back when V9 first appeared, but later "Mostly" fixed). My 90D lease is ending, so I need to bite the bullet anyway when I get a new Raven.
If you just got the update Sunday (10/13) then you might not have had a chance to charge your car yet. Do you notice a significantly lower range (number of miles) at 90% or 100% charge?
 

thecloud

As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
Nov 24, 2014
1,771
1,627
Sunnyvale, CA
Not planning to keep a definitive list of owners who have had updates forced on them, but since two more showed up today, I'm posting this summary as a reminder. The recent activity suggests that Tesla may eventually be intending to force all owners to update, perhaps so they can wind down legacy support systems. Unfortunately, that also means forcing Model S/X owners to accept usability and performance regressions introduced by the v9 redesign and newly-imposed battery/range limits, without prior information or consent.

DateOwnerVersionNotes
2019-05-29HankLloydRight2019.16.2Post 3703262
2019-06-07FlatSix911?Post 3732560
2019-06-15swegman2019.16.3.2Post 3755529
2019-06-22Seattle?Post 3775297
2019-10-12KnightOwl?Post 4106329
2019-10-12mvotb2019.32.12.1Post 4106930
2019-10-13⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️?Post 4107444
2019-10-13Azathoth2019.32.12.1Post 4109393
2019-10-14immolated2019.32.12.1Post 4109864
 

BrokerDon

Active Member
Aug 23, 2014
1,397
1,289
Newport Coast, CA
You might as well do it. I haven't read anything about V10 being any worse than V9.

Actually I've see several other threads about V9 to V10 upgrade issues:
  1. browser takes up almost the entire screen
  2. browser fails to work AT ALL after a couple of uses
  3. browser breaks Tesla Waze completely
  4. passive unlocking / locking stops working
  5. TPMS button reset missing (important when you have 2+ sets of wheels / tires)
  6. alarm going off during upgrade... and leaving vehicle unlocked after upgrade
Sure there are some new features V10 provides... but at a loss of some features I use every day.

I'm waiting for these some or all of issues to be resolved before upgrading to V10, but I do appreciate all the V10 converts "best testing" V10 for me. :D
 

MP3Mike

Well-Known Member
Feb 1, 2016
15,169
32,526
Oregon
TPMS button reset missing (important when you have 2+ sets of wheels / tires)

I assume that button was replaced with the wheel selection option. (Of course if your two sets of wheels are the same, that makes it kind fo weird that you have to pick a different wheel, let it reboot, and then pick your wheels again.)
 

Cars_cars_cars

New Member
Nov 16, 2017
3
6
Portland Oregon
I knew that something was wrong when the Golf Cart's handles didn't auto present this morning. v10 (2019.32.12.1) was forced on my P85D over the last couple of days. The car was on v8 Sunday the 13th.

I haven't charged it yet so I don't know if my battery voltage changed.
 

Knightowl

Whovian
Oct 14, 2016
559
454
Colorado Springs
Not planning to keep a definitive list of owners who have had updates forced on them, but since two more showed up today, I'm posting this summary as a reminder. The recent activity suggests that Tesla may eventually be intending to force all owners to update, perhaps so they can wind down legacy support systems. Unfortunately, that also means forcing Model S/X owners to accept usability and performance regressions introduced by the v9 redesign and newly-imposed battery/range limits, without prior information or consent.

DateOwnerVersionNotes
2019-05-29HankLloydRight2019.16.2Post 3703262
2019-06-07FlatSix911?Post 3732560
2019-06-15swegman2019.16.3.2Post 3755529
2019-06-22Seattle?Post 3775297
2019-10-12KnightOwl?Post 4106329
2019-10-12mvotb2019.32.12.1Post 4106930
2019-10-13⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️?Post 4107444
2019-10-13Azathoth2019.32.12.1Post 4109393
2019-10-14immolated2019.32.12.1Post 4109864


Since I see you are collecting this for whatever it is worth the version that I got force updated to was 32.12.1

I spoke with my local ranger about this and he is hearing about this happening now as well and suspects it was forced due to the China battery fire while charging. He also pushed out 32.12.2 to my car since it was already the crap V10 that update I no longer cared about. Very pissed to have been robbed of features and capabilities I used with the car all the time.
 
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Brass Guy

Active Member
Jan 5, 2014
1,142
935
Holbrook, MA
I'm sure I posted it before, but I think it deserves a revisit -
IMO the V9 V10 interface is less safe to drive with because it takes more "clicks" to accomplish everything I do with one click on V8 (except call up the media app) and most (if not all) targets are smaller.

I know because I drove a loaner for 2 weeks with it and I drove poorly because of it.
 

⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️

Active Member
Jul 15, 2016
2,793
4,514
Pacific Northwest
I'm sure I posted it before, but I think it deserves a revisit -
IMO the V9 V10 interface is less safe to drive with because it takes more "clicks" to accomplish everything I do with one click on V8 (except call up the media app) and most (if not all) targets are smaller.

I know because I drove a loaner for 2 weeks with it and I drove poorly because of it.
Besides the more clicks, it's just more distracting in general. The old split screen made so much more sense. I'm sure I'll get use to it, but the new changes made to V9 /V10 are ridiculous.
 

Tech_Guy

ALWAYS IN LUDICROUS MODE! P90D>P100D Upgrade
May 6, 2016
1,169
2,009
Los Angeles
Yikes.... They haven't got me yet, I think I'm on a special list because when my car gets an update its usually gone the next day :D
 

HustleSimmons

Member
Aug 18, 2015
58
86
Ohio
Add me to the list. Woke up Sunday to V9 2019.32.2.2 from the last version of 8. Biggest reason I was against v9/10 is no more split screen I use the browser on top alot. But I didn't know what's even worse is the SLOW map redraw and WEAK A** Regen! Hoping when I get V10 the Regen gets better...

Got a 2013 60
 

markb1

Active Member
Feb 17, 2012
3,034
640
San Diego, CA
My car is in service, and the service advisor notified me that they will have to do the update. :(

This is for contactor replacement (or so they have told me), which I didn't think required any firmware update, and the service advisor didn't think so, either, at the time of check in. This probably shouldn't count for the list, as it's service applying the update, which is common, not a forced OTA update.

BTW, I've had a 70D loaner with V10 for almost a week now, and I still hate the new UI.
 

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