SpareHeadOne
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Are you paying for those hardware updates or are Tesla doing them for "free"?
If you're not paying now, then that would explain the high price of FSD and also why you don't get to transfer it.
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Tesla open up the SuC network [in UK]
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Are you paying for those hardware updates or are Tesla doing them for "free"?
If you're not paying now, then that would explain the high price of FSD and also why you don't get to transfer it.
Jason71
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Traditional companies struggle to get people to throw money at them for a feature that is never going to work in the lifetime of any Tesla currently on the road in the UK. Seven Grand buys a lot of camera upgrades.
stopcrazypp
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This is getting really off topic, but isn't the marginal costs £3,400 for FSD (given EAP is £3,400) and that includes the traffic light and stop sign control, so it's not like £6,800 goes to FSD Beta function. Here in US, it's the same deal, a nice chunk of the $10k is going toward existing functions, while only part of it goes toward possible FSD Beta access.
Can't find the FSD computer cost for UK, but infotainment upgrade appears to be £1,400 or £1,700 depending on your AP computer, so imagine that is the ballpark.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment
So the marginal cost of FSD would buy you about 2-3 computer upgrades and may not buy you camera upgrades (Tesla is doing some camera upgrades for AP 2 vehicles, but I don't believe they offer that for those without the FSD option).
Tesla Autopilot 2.0 owners need a camera upgrade before getting 'Full Self-Driving Beta'
HenryT
Active Member
Didn't Elon Musk sell his PayPal shares for around $100m? I think he's made a tad more on Tesla 'hardware'.
That said, I appreciate he's pushing the FSD software 'rental' now, so clearly a substantial potential future income stream.
ah this is the thread I was (unsuccessfully) looking for when I posted this:
And so it begins? (App updated with mention of subscriptions and charging non-Tesla cars at Superchargers).
mods - feel free to remove that post
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And so it begins? (App updated with mention of subscriptions and charging non-Tesla cars at Superchargers).
mods - feel free to remove that post
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They missed a line of code out:
"charging_non_tesla_port_side": "For non-Teslas whose port is on the driver’s side rear or front passenger side of car - no charging allowed for you mate"
they do have a line that says "do not park sideways" however
MrBadger
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This seems to imply that it may not be all sites. I wonder if they could prioritise based upon free capacity? That would keep Tesla owners happy but would also free up spare capacity for others to benefit from. Bit of a mare to manage though if planning a stop that is some distance away and the spare capacity changes and you can no longer charge a non Tesla EV.
Jason71
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They would have to write the code for this whether it is one charger or all of them. I have never subscribed to the view that they would open up all of them at once. Whether it will be a handful or many from day one I am less sure of.
Unless it is for a very limited range of cars there will have to be cable changes or it will be chaos
JupiterMan
Active Member
that was exactly my thought reading the code... looks promising from a Tesla owner perspective....but if it is based on capacity rather than fully blacklisted sites, then would be difficult for non Tesla cars to implement supercharger availability into their Sat Navs... as such they would likely turn up and block sites trying to charge anyhow...
yfwt
Member
Will do if they put a snitching or reporting system or they increase idle fees to £10 per min if we report!
Like that will make any difference
Based on my experience of the non-Tesla charging network, I probably wouldn't consider another brand of EV besides Tesla right now. This initiative might change that completely for me if the sites can meet the demand and not result in queues. However, I'm not sure there is enough SuC capacity to cope with Tesla sales growth let alone other brands.
Nice to see sites with 20+ SCs in the Netherlands, I wonder how much they are going to charge?
Jason71
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I googled some of those locations in Holland. most are too new to be on Street view.
I did come across this one though. Maybe the opened up ones will be this style. It would be easier to get other makes to fit just by pulling the car forward or back without having to change the cable. Of course it would still be easy for people to park on the wrong side and Tesla is still building most new ones with the tombstones at the back as far as I can tell
I did come across this one though. Maybe the opened up ones will be this style. It would be easier to get other makes to fit just by pulling the car forward or back without having to change the cable. Of course it would still be easy for people to park on the wrong side and Tesla is still building most new ones with the tombstones at the back as far as I can tell
Jason71
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I imagine they will go all the way up to 100%
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