hybridbear
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Our car has decided that it no longer wants 2023.44.30.4, it is no longer waiting for wifi to download the update. It has decided that it's content to stick with 2023.27.7 for now. I wonder why the change.
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Actually when it is turning, the torque sensing is easier to satisfy. Just provide resistance to the wheel turning. Keep in mind the steering sensing is not based on movement, but rather torque. So you don't actually have to move the wheel, you can just resist the car trying to move the wheel.The new Autopilot update sucks
I had several nags on my usual 40 mile drive and after 6-7 nags, it disabled autopilot for rest of drive - ridiculous and unsafe!
The time it gives me to respond to the nag is ridiculous- just a few seconds , I’m driving 80 mph around a curve and I can’t push the steering wheel obviously— or it will crash , and bam - it turns red
Another time, I see the nag and touch my wheel again to provide torque , but since it’s around a curve , my torque goes unnoticed and I get strike again and no more AP for rest of drive, 25 miles left all highway in traffic
this sucks so bad - I do not think this makes AP safer at all
Mine started downloading two nights ago and went to 50%. Then last night, it finished the other 50%. Sometimes when checking the app, the pending download didn’t show.Our car has decided that it no longer wants 2023.44.30.4, it is no longer waiting for wifi to download the update. It has decided that it's content to stick with 2023.27.7 for now. I wonder why the change.
You don't know until you experience yourself. It's better for me. I am sure it's not worse than 2023.27.7 that I also had. It's no harm to try.Our car has decided that it no longer wants 2023.44.30.4, it is no longer waiting for wifi to download the update. It has decided that it's content to stick with 2023.27.7 for now. I wonder why the change.
Required bugfix. New version in work, according to teslascope.Our car has decided that it no longer wants 2023.44.30.4, it is no longer waiting for wifi to download the update. It has decided that it's content to stick with 2023.27.7 for now. I wonder why the change.
They can't experience it. The offer to update was withdrawn by tesla.You don't know until you experience yourself. It's better for me. I am sure it's not worse than 2023.27.7 that I also had. It's no harm to try.
Actually when it is turning, the torque sensing is easier to satisfy. Just provide resistance to the wheel turning. Keep in mind the steering sensing is not based on movement, but rather torque. So you don't actually have to move the wheel, you can just resist the car trying to move the wheel.
You can also use the scroll wheel as an alternative to satisfy the nag.
I've never used Autosteer or FSD. How much force does it take on the wheel to satisfy a pay attention alert?I’ve been using AP since 2018. I know how AP works.
Do you think it’s a good idea to to apply torque to wheel going 85 mph around a curve? Yes, I drive 80-85 mph and there are curves.
My point is - the nag should allow the driver more than a few seconds to input the torque, so as the driver can wait until it’s safe to apply torque
Try putting your finger against the outside of the wheel and apply a little pressure - like a brake pad against a rotor. As the wheel turns for the curve, you're supplying slight resistance, but not enough to disengage as the wheel is moving freely. Works great for me. If you need to supply more torque, or wiggle the wheel and still have problems satisfying the nag, then your torque sensor may need adjustment or replacement. It literally takes a single finger of force to satisfy the nag.I’ve been using AP since 2018. I know how AP works.
Do you think it’s a good idea to to apply torque to wheel going 85 mph around a curve? Yes, I drive 80-85 mph and there are curves.
My point is - the nag should allow the driver more than a few seconds to input the torque, so as the driver can wait until it’s safe to apply torque
You don't apply torque, you just give some resistance for the wheel turning (basically hold it slightly to resist it turning). It's so slight you will never be anywhere close to disengaging. This is actually easier to do when it is cornering because the car is already applying a torque, so all you are doing is holding the wheel slightly.I’ve been using AP since 2018. I know how AP works.
Do you think it’s a good idea to to apply torque to wheel going 85 mph around a curve? Yes, I drive 80-85 mph and there are curves.
My point is - the nag should allow the driver more than a few seconds to input the torque, so as the driver can wait until it’s safe to apply torque
no!You don't apply torque, you just give some resistance for the wheel turning (basically hold it slightly to resist it turning).
Very little. Too much and the AP disengages.I've never used Autosteer or FSD. How much force does it take on the wheel to satisfy a pay attention alert?
In context, I'm talking about when the nag pops up in a corner as per the post I was responding to.no!
How is that going to work on a straight road - there is no turning to resist. The message says "Apply slight turning force to steering wheel".
I use one hand and simply never get nags. Have been driving Teslas since 2013. I use my right hand at about 5 o’clock partly resting on my knee in my 3 (in my X, my knee is too far away.) I simply hook my thumb and forefinger and provide a slight continuous torque. I have never disabled autopilot this way. I also occasionally switch hands. I apply about 1 pound or less of downward force at the 5 o’clock position.
Disengaging requires a lot more force.
I find when on a curve in the road the nags stop. Returns when the road straightens out. No?In context, I'm talking about when the nag pops up in a corner as per the post I was responding to.
Things are obviously different when the car is going straight, although the same principles can generally apply given typically roads are not completely straight, so the wheel typically is applying some torque. This same thing also applies when you use both hands given they tend to cancel each other out, so the only sensing that happens is from the hands resisting the wheel torque.
Does anybody else see the irony of increased driver attentiveness and "Alternate Routes While Driving" being introduced in the same update?Not sure what is this 2023.4.30.5.1
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