The owners of CNBS finally went 'long' Tesla....Bullish AF!
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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I’m glad they’re working on this feature. I LOVE Tesla…nothing comes close. But this feature could be improved. When I switch from my X to my wife’s M3 I sometimes struggle with (accidental) engagement of the autopilot systems. Not having FSD further complicates things as the car doesn’t react to stop lights/signs.
My X does have FSD and a dedicated engagement stalk (which I prefer), so I never have these issues. As FSD improves, so too will auto pilot features.
Counterpoint; my wife doesn’t like to drive the X because she feels it takes some time for her to adjust to the different controls. So the controls aren’t better or worse in different vehicles per se…but they take some getting used to.
when I have friends new to Tesla I usually recommend not using the auto pilot features unless on the freeway…until they have a strong understanding of their limitations. This is an instance where I do believe that additional training from the delivery team would be beneficial to the mission…as safety is goal #1.
I trust this will all be sorted out in grand fashion. I analogize this to when I used to jailbreak my iPhone for additional features; features that have now been improved (more intuitively) by AAPL through OTA updates.
It just takes time to push perfection to such a large user base. HODLing
My X does have FSD and a dedicated engagement stalk (which I prefer), so I never have these issues. As FSD improves, so too will auto pilot features.
Counterpoint; my wife doesn’t like to drive the X because she feels it takes some time for her to adjust to the different controls. So the controls aren’t better or worse in different vehicles per se…but they take some getting used to.
when I have friends new to Tesla I usually recommend not using the auto pilot features unless on the freeway…until they have a strong understanding of their limitations. This is an instance where I do believe that additional training from the delivery team would be beneficial to the mission…as safety is goal #1.
I trust this will all be sorted out in grand fashion. I analogize this to when I used to jailbreak my iPhone for additional features; features that have now been improved (more intuitively) by AAPL through OTA updates.
It just takes time to push perfection to such a large user base. HODLing
Model 3 has overtaken ID.4 in Norway in Q2.
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As always, if your focus is short term, feel free to block or ignore me.
Chelsea Sexton is almost spot on in her assessment of US electrification. California, based on what @gene is battling, is closer to zero. Proposition 13, long, long ago is where California lost me, a second generation native.
Ref: at the end of 2019, I installed a new roof (50 year composite tile), followed by the most solar panels I could effectively purchase in a tree rich environment. My $900 earnings from 2020 went to paying down 2021 electricity future billing. My second bill this years budget cycle is down to $35 a month, down from $195 averaging During 2019 & 2020. I am covered by a public utility at that location.
Soon after I retired from active duty in 1994; Germany went on a tear, as I believe, and installed solar panels when and where possible. Now that is impressive ~ hopefully if you live in Germany you can tell me I am right, and not wrong. Please.
My life‘s experiences tell me as a country we are far behind the power curve and why I doubt as a world community we will NOT out run climate change.
I think, Tesla (car side) will knock our socks off. If the pictures are accurate that I have seen of Ford’s with-out chips parked collecting dust, well sadly that will tell it all. Even if Tesla delivers less than expected, desired or wanted; it is still more than the quote the “competition.” Unless, unless you assume the real competition is fossil fuels ~ not Ford, not Chevy; et al. Then the deliveries of Tesla’s, Mustang and Ford e versions make sense.
Fossil fuel industry is like ivy. It is an invasive plant that left unchecked will strangle and kill all that lives. Ivy has no real predictors ~ except me/my wife. Our new to us home in Olympia is now seeing the light of day at a cost of $15K plus or minus ~ the ivy crew removal is not complete. Yes, our home is tactically out numbered 100 to one as ivy is to the left of us, to the right of us, to the rear and front of us, but our footprint will be cleared and monitored until I/we die or sell the place. FYI ~ ivy will kill trees by strangulation. Picture the little guy against Goliath.
Tesla is not in competition, not alone. Tesla is the spearhead or leader ~ if Tesla/Elon fails ~ we all fail.
Recall ~ yep, it needs to be updated/corrected. While teaching beginning computer science; my pet peeve was ~ computer hacking vs computer cracking. As the lab manager at a local university I took pictures of the building where the lab was and then hacked the operating system to insert the picture as the initial splash page partly as humor, but mostly to personalize the lab. On the other hand, someone that criminally cracks the operating system or software program to illegally obtain or steal data is cracking the system. Just like a safe cracker. But the media and others were/are too lazy to know or educate the public on the difference. Some miss information is deliberate.
Well, gotta run, ivy to kill, sockets to be updated, and new hardware as we update the place. My only distractor is getting older every day
Cannot wait to get my favorite electrician (Werner) in here to upgrade our power line to 320Amp, install our new Tesla charger, and allow the conversation of our two 30 year old furnaces/heat pumps from fossil fuel (natural gas) to electric.
Going to be a hot weekend here ~ stay cool
As always, if your focus is short term, feel free to block or ignore me.
Chelsea Sexton is almost spot on in her assessment of US electrification. California, based on what @gene is battling, is closer to zero. Proposition 13, long, long ago is where California lost me, a second generation native.
Ref: at the end of 2019, I installed a new roof (50 year composite tile), followed by the most solar panels I could effectively purchase in a tree rich environment. My $900 earnings from 2020 went to paying down 2021 electricity future billing. My second bill this years budget cycle is down to $35 a month, down from $195 averaging During 2019 & 2020. I am covered by a public utility at that location.
Soon after I retired from active duty in 1994; Germany went on a tear, as I believe, and installed solar panels when and where possible. Now that is impressive ~ hopefully if you live in Germany you can tell me I am right, and not wrong. Please.
My life‘s experiences tell me as a country we are far behind the power curve and why I doubt as a world community we will NOT out run climate change.
I think, Tesla (car side) will knock our socks off. If the pictures are accurate that I have seen of Ford’s with-out chips parked collecting dust, well sadly that will tell it all. Even if Tesla delivers less than expected, desired or wanted; it is still more than the quote the “competition.” Unless, unless you assume the real competition is fossil fuels ~ not Ford, not Chevy; et al. Then the deliveries of Tesla’s, Mustang and Ford e versions make sense.
Fossil fuel industry is like ivy. It is an invasive plant that left unchecked will strangle and kill all that lives. Ivy has no real predictors ~ except me/my wife. Our new to us home in Olympia is now seeing the light of day at a cost of $15K plus or minus ~ the ivy crew removal is not complete. Yes, our home is tactically out numbered 100 to one as ivy is to the left of us, to the right of us, to the rear and front of us, but our footprint will be cleared and monitored until I/we die or sell the place. FYI ~ ivy will kill trees by strangulation. Picture the little guy against Goliath.
Tesla is not in competition, not alone. Tesla is the spearhead or leader ~ if Tesla/Elon fails ~ we all fail.
Recall ~ yep, it needs to be updated/corrected. While teaching beginning computer science; my pet peeve was ~ computer hacking vs computer cracking. As the lab manager at a local university I took pictures of the building where the lab was and then hacked the operating system to insert the picture as the initial splash page partly as humor, but mostly to personalize the lab. On the other hand, someone that criminally cracks the operating system or software program to illegally obtain or steal data is cracking the system. Just like a safe cracker. But the media and others were/are too lazy to know or educate the public on the difference. Some miss information is deliberate.
Well, gotta run, ivy to kill, sockets to be updated, and new hardware as we update the place. My only distractor is getting older every day
Cannot wait to get my favorite electrician (Werner) in here to upgrade our power line to 320Amp, install our new Tesla charger, and allow the conversation of our two 30 year old furnaces/heat pumps from fossil fuel (natural gas) to electric.Going to be a hot weekend here ~ stay cool
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It's click bait, that's all.I saw this on CNN's website:
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I clicked through all 50 cars to see what mean, nasty, terrible things they had to say about the Model 3. It seems like they had messed up the article because, while I clicked through all 50 cars, there were no Model 3's, Model Y's or Model S's on the list. They did badmouth the Model X but they had nothing to go with the cover photo.
I think it's just incompetence.
insaneoctane
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Weekend OT:
The Model S Plaid is such a beast :devil. On the street with no drag mode, no cheetah mode 0-60 in 2.1sec with roll out or 2.4sec without roll out at 98% or 50% SOC.
1/4th of mile at 9.39 sec at 98% SOC on the street and 9.5 sec at 50% SOC. This car is being held back by the current tire technology
I need get one some how.
The Model S Plaid is such a beast :devil. On the street with no drag mode, no cheetah mode 0-60 in 2.1sec with roll out or 2.4sec without roll out at 98% or 50% SOC.
1/4th of mile at 9.39 sec at 98% SOC on the street and 9.5 sec at 50% SOC. This car is being held back by the current tire technology
I need get one some how.
I marked it funny as it was inevitable. And yet, I'm still hoping for competition.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Yup. Recall when a certain BI reporter doubled down on her "muddy field" report:
Linette Lopez replying to @lopezlinette on Twitter: (Nov 12, 2019)
#TSLACKS (common-sense)
Cheers!
Twitter thread about an unfortunate accident (with Elon response). Worth clicking and reading. Certainly makes me happy to drive a Tesla. Yet another story that would be picked up and reported on by an impartial media:
So I found this article: 由于主动巡航控制系统问题，特斯拉召回28万辆进口和国产Model 3/ Y
And translated to this English:
According to the announcement, due to the active cruise control system problem of the vehicles within the scope of this recall, the driver may accidentally activate the active cruise function in the following situations: When the vehicle is in D gear, the driver again toggles the right lever to try to switch gear ; When the vehicle turns sharply, the driver accidentally touches and toggles the right control lever, etc.
After the active cruise control is activated by mistake, if the cruise speed set by the vehicle is not the current speed, and the current speed is lower than the set speed, the vehicle will accelerate to the set speed, and a sudden increase in vehicle speed will occur, which will affect the driver’s expectations.
I get that travelling at or near the speed limit and accidentally hitting the gear shifter would set the speed to the limit or above, but not at slow speeds. Currently, at slow speeds (<25kph or 18mph) it should always set the speed to the current speed or fail to set any speed. This should apply to any road segment whether it knows the speed limit or not.
I do NOT understand how, under ANY of these situations, where active cruise could be accidentally set to a speed higher than the current speed. Or am I misunderstanding? If someone were to activate cruise while accidentally hitting the shifter down for these circumstances, it would seem that the car would need to be traveling at a very slow speed (turning sharply or attempting to change gears) and thus the cruise set speed would not be above that current speed.
Also, it would seem that the only cars actually recalled will be those that can't be OTAd (i.e. owners that choose not to update for a maximum amount of time or cars that are not heart-beating (aka out of communication).
Article doesn't say what the fix is going to be. Or maybe I missed that as well...
Linette Lopez - Business Insider
Linette is a senior correspondent at Business Insider who focuses her writing on tech, finance and economics as well as international relations. She also conducts investigations into controversial companies, like Tesla. She joined BI in the summer of 2011 after graduating from Columbia...
www.businessinsider.com
She's doing waaaayyyy more than 'conducting an investigation'
What's great about Elon is that the safety thing is true. From the very first meeting with him, he always, always, always held safety as the top priority. It was a huge part of the reason I went to Tesla and why I continue to be an investor.
Odds of Dying - Injury Facts Motor vehicle, pedestrian and cyclist. All can be nearly eliminated with AI driving cars.
If I follow your question, it's not a new setting of the cruise control speed, but rather a resumption of the previously set speed.So I found this article: 由于主动巡航控制系统问题，特斯拉召回28万辆进口和国产Model 3/ Y
And translated to this English:
According to the announcement, due to the active cruise control system problem of the vehicles within the scope of this recall, the driver may accidentally activate the active cruise function in the following situations: When the vehicle is in D gear, the driver again toggles the right lever to try to switch gear ; When the vehicle turns sharply, the driver accidentally touches and toggles the right control lever, etc.
After the active cruise control is activated by mistake, if the cruise speed set by the vehicle is not the current speed, and the current speed is lower than the set speed, the vehicle will accelerate to the set speed, and a sudden increase in vehicle speed will occur, which will affect the driver’s expectations.
I get that travelling at or near the speed limit and accidentally hitting the gear shifter would set the speed to the limit or above, but not at slow speeds. Currently, at slow speeds (<25kph or 18mph) it should always set the speed to the current speed or fail to set any speed. This should apply to any road segment whether it knows the speed limit or not.
I do NOT understand how, under ANY of these situations, where active cruise could be accidentally set to a speed higher than the current speed. Or am I misunderstanding? If someone were to activate cruise while accidentally hitting the shifter down for these circumstances, it would seem that the car would need to be traveling at a very slow speed (turning sharply or attempting to change gears) and thus the cruise set speed would not be above that current speed.
Also, it would seem that the only cars actually recalled will be those that can't be OTAd (i.e. owners that choose not to update for a maximum amount of time or cars that are not heart-beating (aka out of communication).
Article doesn't say what the fix is going to be. Or maybe I missed that as well...
Linette Lopez - Business Insider
Linette is a senior correspondent at Business Insider who focuses her writing on tech, finance and economics as well as international relations. She also conducts investigations into controversial companies, like Tesla. She joined BI in the summer of 2011 after graduating from Columbia...
She's doing waaaayyyy more than 'conducting an investigation'
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Driver in cruise at 55, pressed the brake to pull into a parking lot, while turning in, accidentally hit the stalk.
Still needs to meet the rules for engaging cruise.
And.... not a problem on new S and X vehicles.
Only thing controversial about Tesla is they don't spend money advertisingSo I found this article: 由于主动巡航控制系统问题，特斯拉召回28万辆进口和国产Model 3/ Y
And translated to this English:
According to the announcement, due to the active cruise control system problem of the vehicles within the scope of this recall, the driver may accidentally activate the active cruise function in the following situations: When the vehicle is in D gear, the driver again toggles the right lever to try to switch gear ; When the vehicle turns sharply, the driver accidentally touches and toggles the right control lever, etc.
After the active cruise control is activated by mistake, if the cruise speed set by the vehicle is not the current speed, and the current speed is lower than the set speed, the vehicle will accelerate to the set speed, and a sudden increase in vehicle speed will occur, which will affect the driver’s expectations.
I get that travelling at or near the speed limit and accidentally hitting the gear shifter would set the speed to the limit or above, but not at slow speeds. Currently, at slow speeds (<25kph or 18mph) it should always set the speed to the current speed or fail to set any speed. This should apply to any road segment whether it knows the speed limit or not.
I do NOT understand how, under ANY of these situations, where active cruise could be accidentally set to a speed higher than the current speed. Or am I misunderstanding? If someone were to activate cruise while accidentally hitting the shifter down for these circumstances, it would seem that the car would need to be traveling at a very slow speed (turning sharply or attempting to change gears) and thus the cruise set speed would not be above that current speed.
Also, it would seem that the only cars actually recalled will be those that can't be OTAd (i.e. owners that choose not to update for a maximum amount of time or cars that are not heart-beating (aka out of communication).
Article doesn't say what the fix is going to be. Or maybe I missed that as well...
Linette Lopez - Business Insider
Linette is a senior correspondent at Business Insider who focuses her writing on tech, finance and economics as well as international relations. She also conducts investigations into controversial companies, like Tesla. She joined BI in the summer of 2011 after graduating from Columbia...
She's doing waaaayyyy more than 'conducting an investigation'
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Also, I see lots of people drive with cell phones in their hands. Easier to hit the stalk accidentally if you had an object in your right hand.If I follow your question, it's not a new setting of the cruise control speed, but rather a resumption of the previously set speed.
Driver in cruise at 55, pressed the brake to pull into a parking lot, while turning in, accidentally hit the stalk.
Still needs to meet the rules for engaging cruise.
And.... not a problem on new S and X vehicles.
Knightshade
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Plaid is an awesome car, but still has the same problem as previous S- too damn big.
Since they won't do a higher-than-P Model 3 I'm forced to keep driving 3 until the the new roadster is ready.
Added bonus- the spacex package solves the tire limitation issue.
My Model 3 rendered a horse yesterday when I had loaded a canoe on the roof !
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