At the moment I believe the LFP packs used in the model 3 SR are all made in China. Not an expert on form factor but from memory I think they are pouch cells. Perhaps someone that is more knowledgeable on Tesla's use of LFP can confirm but I think there is already an LFP Model Y in China.
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Or Duxford in the UK (bigger detour if you are in the Pacific Northwest but still worth it)
While Ford is selling millions of pickup trucks per year, producing a few thousand EV trucks is not mass production, it is simply irrelevant.
How are they going to reconcile the above numbers with their promise to Biden to reach 50% EV sales ?
Are they going to drop their ICE sales below 80k per year ? I sincerely hope they do, but I am not holding my breath.
Whoever is reaching 100k/year first will be the first milestone towards making an actual impact, my bet that will be Tesla.
lafrisbee
Active Member
Way to darn often I see one of us post a youtube video that we've all already seen.
And if you have seen this one then I am sorry.
BUT it is a very enjoyable listen (it is a podcast as well) by someone intelligent with a Professional background in Stocks I guess. Who knows about cars on a more than hobby basis.
The insights are worth it. Not much you haven't heard. Just presented in a very well done and thoughtful presentation.
I would nominate it as the video you have people you care somewhat about watch if they don't know Tesla.
And if you have seen this one then I am sorry.
BUT it is a very enjoyable listen (it is a podcast as well) by someone intelligent with a Professional background in Stocks I guess. Who knows about cars on a more than hobby basis.
The insights are worth it. Not much you haven't heard. Just presented in a very well done and thoughtful presentation.
I would nominate it as the video you have people you care somewhat about watch if they don't know Tesla.
OT: Story from Superchargers.
I was supercharging for 35 minutes today. 4-6 Teslas charing in and out during that time. There are also some other chargers there 3-4 of them.
An Audi E-Tron pulls up. I am guessing dude is on the road as he had 2 bikes on the rack.
Now, he kept fiddling with all chargers and could not get started. 38F and windy. Poor dude kept changing through all stalls back and forth. When I was done, I am not sure if he even started charging.
I do wish it were not the case. He was really struggling.
You all know where this is going - SC network is a moat and advantage of incredible proportions. All Teslas I saw just plugged in and people watched Netflix or played games for a few minutes. Zero drama.
SC# is supposed to triple soon. This alone makes me Tesla forever and I know a few other things that general mob is still ignorant about.
I was supercharging for 35 minutes today. 4-6 Teslas charing in and out during that time. There are also some other chargers there 3-4 of them.
An Audi E-Tron pulls up. I am guessing dude is on the road as he had 2 bikes on the rack.
Now, he kept fiddling with all chargers and could not get started. 38F and windy. Poor dude kept changing through all stalls back and forth. When I was done, I am not sure if he even started charging.
I do wish it were not the case. He was really struggling.
You all know where this is going - SC network is a moat and advantage of incredible proportions. All Teslas I saw just plugged in and people watched Netflix or played games for a few minutes. Zero drama.
SC# is supposed to triple soon. This alone makes me Tesla forever and I know a few other things that general mob is still ignorant about.
Gigapress
Trying to be less wrong
Exactly. Even if the copycats match the styling (easy enough) and somehow match all the performance numbers (probably not gonna happen), they're still at a major cost disadvantage.
Look, she probably loves you and it's not going to happen. But if she starts making flimsy excuses to take the truck out alone, or she tells you how safe and secure she feels riding in its rock-hard, chiseled exoskeleton, or she comments on how much she loves the tall road view, or you catch her sitting in it in the driveway with a glass of wine on romance mode...
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Was this in NL, where other cars can use a Tesla SC? If not then why was that car trying to charge in a SC?
Yes, but all I was saying is it is enough to hit their current goals as per quoted post.
Once 2025 hits I believe they plan on having. Their new factories open...as you say if things are on time.
Ford battery plans
dhrivnak
Active Member
How about they have at least 6 months of backlog on current cars and a year behind on the CyberTruck and 2 years behind on the Roadster and you want to distract them further?
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Any idea why Tesla hasnt gotten into drones? There is even solar technician roles to help map houses for solar panels some companies are beginning to deploy too.
Did you get an estimated delivery date?I have sinned and ordered a Rivian. I don’t think Tesla will start production on the Cybertruck until 2025. I predict the backlog on 3/Y will continue to grow, so what’s the point of making a CT? Tesla can’t even ramp S/X yet
PS I’m very bullish on Tesla and bearish on Rivian. I need a pickup truck though
Well, the problems In The Netherlands are arising as they were predicted.
Received this message from another Tesla owner, who wanted to charge in Eemnes in The Netherlands -12 stalls (translated from Dutch):
"Where can I report to Tesla about the pilot with other brands using Tesla chargers?
Today at Eemnes a lot of other brands that occupy 2 places because their charging is on the wrong side.
According to the map enough free chargers, but in reality not one.
Fortunately, a Tesla left which was so kind as to signal so that I could charge immediately.
But the next one had to wait.
This is very annoying and detracts from the beautiful charging network of Tesla."
The message says it all.
Good for adaptation of electric driving and Tesla selling electricity, bad experience for Tesla owners as there are (now and in the near future) not enough superchargers.
And most importantly: as long as other car brands do not take up the glove to install reliable! charging capacity.
This sounds like it could be solved pretty quickly through a "no jerks" policy. Anyone photographed taking up two stalls is fined/banned.
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
I have sinned and ordered a Rivian. I don’t think Tesla will start production on the Cybertruck until 2025. I predict the backlog on 3/Y will continue to grow, so what’s the point of making a CT? Tesla can’t even ramp S/X yet
PS I’m very bullish on Tesla and bearish on Rivian. I need a pickup truck though
I almost ordered a Rivian RT1 when I learned the Cybertuck had been somewhat delayed but, after doing some delivery estimating, I figured I would still get the Cybertruck first. I'm about 40K back in line. But the real lightbulb moment was when I realized I wouldn't be able to sell my F-150 until I take delivery of the Cybertruck anyway because the bed in the Rivian, at 4 1/2 feet, shouldn't even be called a "bed" (unless you are an Oompa-loompa). It's more like a big tool box that doesn't come with a lid. The Cybertruck bed is the same size as my F-150 bed, 6 1/2 feet. The RT1 shouldn't be called a "truck", it's a class of vehicle called a "cute ute".
XHabjab
TSLA Bull
I think the point to be made here is that the non-Tesla vehicle was trying to use a non-Tesla charger that was near the Tesla Superchargers.
Tesla car + Tesla Supercharger ==> success
Non-Tesla car + non-Tesla charger ==> wailing and gnashing of teeth
HTH
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
I doubt the non-Tesla even understood they were blocking 2 stalls. They park in the wrong slot in order to to get cable access to their charging port and end up blocking 2 slots for Tesla's.
Words of HABIT
Active Member
Simple solution would be for Tesla to replace the charge cables with longer length cables for SuperChargers accessible for all BEV. Tesla could design a braket so that the cables don't drag on the ground when not in use.
You mentioned the negative, but what about the positive? How much good will for non-Tesla owners was generated? How many non-Tesla owners are now considering Tesla as their next BEV as a result of charging at a Tesla SuperCharger and interaction with Tesla owners and use of the Tesla App?
This is what the test in Netherlands is for. Tesla will take back the information gathered and make it work best for all before a mass roll-out. It's all about the Mission.
I would’ve preferred if Elon had answered me himself, but thanks!
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
Or extenders for the non-Tesla cars.
The superchargers have been laid out in a very clear manner to suit the Tesla charge port location. With a Tesla it is not physically possible to use the wrong charger based on where you park.
I am just surprised Tesla would start a trial without out a clear solution for EV's without the port on the left rear or right front.
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