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  1. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Driving a 2016 model X, there are frequent times we have to charge above 90 per cent even make it to the next supercharger, especially in winter or on windy days. I guess Tesla expects us to go 60km/hour on the highway to make it, or pay possibly an extra 30 bucks in supercharging (yes that...
  2. Ocelot

    What other tech stock to consider?

    Mmmh…2015! This is a bump for the thread I would like to see some more traction on. @Cosmacelf , been missing your recommendations! I am interested in how AI will change how pharmaceuticals are developed, but so far it has been a giant rabbit hole of early trials and hard to delineate the...
  3. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I hope you are right. Everything has a cost though. It would be great if Tesla only adjusted costs semi-annually or something like that. The way they move things about now, seemingly irks some customers and destabilizes the secondary market. This seemingly has a larger effect on...
  4. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Off topic I really need to know your speaker amp combo!
  5. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    …well now we know why the event was scheduled in the middle of a “workday”. A large part of me thinks they would of been better off not holding an event. Anyhow, on to more important things. CENSORSHIP. Part of evaluating data is evaluating the source of that data, and to examine for any bias...
  6. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Are we arguing about what priority Tesla is placing on a vehicle initially announced in 2017?
  7. Ocelot

    Tesla car design is on the wrong track?

    This. Truck would be on the road by now if they chose a more simple, tried and true design. That would align with the mission more than having four years between announcing and initial production. Subsequently then you can release a 'cybertruck' either as a niche vehicle for $$$, or mass...
  8. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I initially and continue to invest in Tesla to support the mission of transitioning away from fossil fuels. That’s why I am disappointed. They could of made a regular pick up, then developed the cybertruck. It has been four years since announced…and how many years work before that...
  9. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Optimus working in 2024 in factories I would mark as unrealistic (in terms of replacing a human job).
  10. Ocelot

    Service and communication (out of main)

    Just had the upper control arms changed out on the Model X. every bump, every time turned wheel horrible squeaking. booked appt. got moved, via app from 1 week out to 5 weeks out. I aksed to have appt moved up, they noted will get back to me when parts are in. crickets. five weeks later...
  11. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Wall street is not on 'our' side. I for one breathe a sigh of relief when TSLA gets downgraded. It's a bull in bear's clothing sign. For the most part I believe they try to push the stock down when want to accumulate, and up when want to offload.
  12. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For a board that in general champion FSD , it is somewhat strange that everyone wants to park themselves! I have autopilot, and used it once. I like to drive. With that said, comparing parking the Tesla to anything with birds eye view sucks. The model x is wide, and 22 inch rims have little...
  13. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    First I have heard of this. So much potential for that to be quirky, weird, interesting and fascinating! I think I would have to go. Hopefully I am not the one starting the' how i lost my tesla fortune in Vegas', thread, (despite the fact it would be a near shoe in for a threads of the day...
  14. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This post would seem to agree. Trip report: Santa Cruz, CA to Lovell, ME The above linked post is in my opinion the first large scale opportunity for FSD. Road trips. People driving more than four hours would likely do periodic subscriptions if it helped them significantly cut down on...
  15. Ocelot

    Tesla really needs to step up their SUV game (BMW iX impressions)

    Acess to phone? Service records? What are you talking about? Imagine this. You work in a place with about 10 employees . It’s a small isolated building. You just had a customer come in and ask for a different employee, as that is the employee who did the work and something is not right. That...
  16. Ocelot

    Tesla really needs to step up their SUV game (BMW iX impressions)

    Maybe its the Canadian Centers that do not offer any uber credit? Either way, should be part of standard service when people are dropping off their vehicle. I forgot to mention the most frustrating part, which reinforced my "oldness". As said when I went to pick up the model X an error message...
  17. Ocelot

    Spotify

    Sorry to hijack but also have a Spotify question. Whenever you ask to “ play this song” it will then play that song and subsequently associated sons..,the same order , same songs every time. Any way to change this? Also anyway to voice command to play whole album instead of one song then...
  18. Ocelot

    Tesla really needs to step up their SUV game (BMW iX impressions)

    I have a model x. Great vehicle. Worst part? Service. No one to talk to. Appointments rescheduled via a message. Currently still have 4 weeks to go for an appointment for suspension issue. No loaners, no taxi credit. Even no direct person to talk to last time I picked it up as I had questions...
  19. Ocelot

    Trip report: Santa Cruz, CA to Lovell, ME

    Ah. thanks for clarifying. Although I was somewhat happy to interpret it the way i did (not missing out), now back to saving up. :)
  20. Ocelot

    Trip report: Santa Cruz, CA to Lovell, ME

    Hi there. Just curios about your comment with respect to no differences between your two model X. I have a 2016 p90 d, and sometimes debate about getting a newer one, although hard to justify the cost. Was hoping for a bit more range (highway we get maybe 250km-300km max) and faster charging...
  21. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I fully agree. With number one being super important. How can you say anything about safety and accident rates comparing FSD to a person driving when in reality you are comparing a hybrid system ( FSD plus human) to a human. It s positive, reverse FUD.
  22. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As soon as read this in shareholder deck, it did not seem good. “Our near-term pricing strategy considers a long-term view on per vehicle profitability given the potential lifetime value of a Tesla vehicle through autonomy, supercharging, connectivity and service. “ Autonomy= Giant questions...
  23. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    if we can stop guessing and a ssuming and stick to facts that would be great.
  24. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Somewhat contradictory to state you have no idea how people use their trucks, but then say if they use the side it’s awkward for them at best , and lazy at worst. Why use blanket statements like this? Seems like the purpose is strictly to insult. Why not put in the qualifier “ for myself”. I am...
  25. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes the rivian and lightening are ICE, right? Just because you design a traditional shape, it just means you ranked something higher on your priority list in design than drag coefficient. Does every single person buy the EV with the longest range possible? Mmh let’s see that would mean even...
  26. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Must be a nice boulevard you can do that from.
  27. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Let’s not pretend you know how low it “ squats”. My point which is a valid “ concern” is specific usability for task you have a truck for. That could trump range in someone’s list of things. We have a 2016 Kia soul EV.range down to 120 km, but works fine for what we use it for. Also have a...
  28. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well firstly I never said anything about timing of production or what it would be made out of. Sure the cybertruck will have less of a drag coefficient, but will sacrifice some practicality for that ( if you have a pick up odds are I have tossed many a thing over the side). Practicality of...
  29. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Agree completely. To add to that I am curious about sustained demand for cybertruck. Oh how I would be so much more comfortable if they did both a conventional pick up alongside the cybertruck. Lots of reservations, but I wonder how many people are like me, with zero intention of ever buying...
  30. Ocelot

    Off topic galore

    Off topic While google is a money printer, it is only for now. I personally am kind of fed up with google search, their bread and butter. When I switched from alta vista or whatever I was using to google 20 years ago, you could find exact matches for what you where looking for. Pick a sentence...
  31. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Already this thread is heavily biased due to fact this is a Tesla forum. Bears are labelled, often ridiculed and eventually leave. Discouraging people who do not hold Tesla shares from taking their turn at the mic, only would amplify the echo chamber. I rather Like hearing from people who feel...
  32. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Off topic so they removed, imo the best color, and replaced it with a dated burgundy ford Taurus color. Not sure that’s gonna stimulate sales.
  33. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The frunk is large…as is the area below the floor in the back. Having seats on posts also helps with below the seat storage.
  34. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Model x 6 seater. We fit 2 adults..2 kids…2 suitcases…2 huge duffles , 4 backpacks…2 kids golf club sets and and adult goldfish club set , and random stuff…WITHOUT using the trunk space…where our 110 pound dog was.
  35. Ocelot

    Would you let stranger charge at your driveway for fee?

    Yep. Why not? No biggie.
  36. Ocelot

    BC owners: vote for where to add Supercharger locations in Tesla’s new poll

    Totally agree. Need a few more past Nainaimo.
  37. Ocelot

    Tesla Investor Day Discussion

    I must say it was a bit of a snooze fest. Not that there were not great points, but that could of been an hour long concise presentation. So what is the right play right now, feel free to head over to…. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/what-other-tech-stock-to-consider.18843/
  38. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What did I miss? I stopped watching and started to write hacking code to open and close all Tesla sunroofs continuously after the owner parks it for the night.
  39. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Surprised by this. Elon cares about the mission, that is the answer to your questions. I actually do not think he cares much at all over stock price.
  40. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    it’s a month old..and someone linked it in the semimsection ( got no responses) but this article is pretty informative on the semi. I would say looking good for tsla, but also thought it made a good point about software specific things for various companies using the semi, which Tesla does not...
  41. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sorry..just linked the video, to show the date. You mentioned a couple years ago at the semi reveal…,which was 2017.
  42. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Mmh, not sure if this a good example of our bias, or you need some coenzyme q10.😉
  43. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well Mr. Musk himself did call the model x the Fabrege egg of cars, so there is that.
  44. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For continued growth no doubt need a smaller car. They hinted at one, coming out of China a while ago, then seemed to backtrack a bit likely due to battery constrained production. I really hope, unlike the x, the 3, the cybertruck, the semi, which probably between them average 2 to 3 years...
  45. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hi there small boat! I really appreciate your contributions, and always find them informative. The numbers that jump out at me are the global utility market per cent. It seems it has been declining since 2019 to 18 per cent, yet next year you have it close to 50 per cent. Maybe I missed it but...
  46. Ocelot

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    TSLA follows Tesla. While fundamentals can be decoupled with price for a while, it all eventually comes together. To see TSLA go back up, they need to accelerate timelines. The semi, they noted deliveries begin 2019! The cybertruck is late. At this point, 2.5 years after last non-commercial...
  47. Ocelot

    Elon Musk: "Just as my money was the first in, it will be the last out."

    Well , in retrospect, seems to mean nothing.