Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[MC3OZ]

I know that my opinion is not popular, but I think there’s high probability, that this is just the beginning. Of course i’m not sure. If I were, I would be 100% cash. Now I’m only 50%.

Problem with U.S. stocks is, that all the other valuation models excepted interest rate model say that S&P 500 is overvalued. If (when) interests rise, there’s no support for current valuation.

Some US stocks are more equal than others.

So it is likely many are overvalued, but some are undervalued in relation to their long term value.

 

[ZachF]

I'll gladly revisit this topic at the end of this year. Hell we can do it at the halfway point. I think you're going to be very wrong. Just a FYI, remember scale and compounding growth in earnings. What you posted about the percentage in 2019 backs up what I'm saying even more.

I'll leave it at that to not go off topic anymore

I think the conditions under which companies were able to greatly increase margins 20/21 (including tech) won’t exist this year, much of the tailwinds will turn to headwinds, and profit growth will disappoint this year for most companies (except Tesla lol).

I’ll leave it at that.

 

[SOULPEDL]

What was the buy-in price

For some reason I thought today was ER day… but it’s Wednesday.

That’s more depressing than the SP!

Today is Monday. Come on man, pull it together.

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

Wow macro's are gonna turn green today and TSLA is still going to be down 3-4%.............

 

[ZachF]

Today is Monday. Come on man, pull it together.

hey we’ve had like a week worth of market drama today!

But in seriousness, for some reason the 24th was burned in my mind… now I gotta wait to Wednesday!?!

 

[SO16]

I like this one: "I can't relate to lazy people. We don't speak the same language. I don't understand you. I don't want to understand you."

Those that jumped into $TSLA looking to make a quick $$ that have panic sold are the exact lazy ones that don't do their homework and understand what is coming real soon!!

Yeah… I was just talking to a coworker. He told me his financial advisor said TSLA should be at $80 max. I told him to get a new financial advisor.

Absolutely amazing how wrong many so called “professional financial advisors” are incompetent.

 

[elasalle]

those who play with fire are gonna get burnt

 

[Buckminster]

Let's see if this hammer shape on the daily candle holds. This is what capitulation looks like. Not calling it, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Somebody could have told me the SP is allowed to go below the blue line...

 

[traxila]

You must be correct. Just a coincidence that they’ve stopped JUST shy of -10% several times today….

No manipulation folks. You heard it here first!

Of course it is manipulation.

It is not stock specific. This is the kind of manipulation that occurs with any stock they target.

TSLA is permanently targeted. It is a luscious target.

If you want to believe that they have it in for Tesla like no other stock and that the rest of the market is treated 'fairly', then go ahead. But in the end you are only causing yourself a lot of stress. Just accept that the whole deal is a rigged casino. First step to finding peace.

Anyway, all the best to you.

 

[FlamingPIG]

The S curve blasting off
double EV yoy growth per ARK

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

those who play with fire are gonna get burnt

Unfortunately the only ones playing with fire are investors playing very short term Calls.

Not to be a debby downer, but today's action shows "they" are going to step in and prevent any rise and push it down hard on any further weakness until earnings. And even then, I think they'll exit their short positions in an orchestrated way to where they'll get unscathed. In fact I only bought a fraction of the short term calls I was thinking about placing (for two Friday's from now) because it feels like the earnings pop will be delayed to the following week. They'll pull out all the stops to cover their positions.

Edit: In fact I just offloaded those short term calls I did buy in the morning today. I'll rebuy the day of earnings.

 

[Singuy]

Come on we need to close above 900! That is all I want today honestly

 

[ZachF]

Yeah… I was just talking to a coworker. He told me his financial advisor said TSLA should be at $80 max. I told him to get a new financial advisor.

Absolutely amazing how wrong many so called “professional financial advisors” are incompetent.

PE of ~6 with a 50%+ CAGR and essentially no debt… makes perfect sense.

 

[Zero CO2]

Come on we need to close above 900! That is all I want today honestly

underachiever come on green

 

[TheTalkingMule]

I think the conditions under which companies were able to greatly increase margins 20/21 (including tech) won’t exist this year, much of the tailwinds will turn to headwinds, and profit growth will disappoint this year for most companies (except Tesla lol).

I’ll leave it at that.

So the only tech firm whose near term financial future we know inside and out......just happens to be the lone exception? I find that a little too convenient.

 

[Nocturnal]

Yeah… I was just talking to a coworker. He told me his financial advisor said TSLA should be at $80 max. I told him to get a new financial advisor.

Absolutely amazing how wrong many so called “professional financial advisors” are incompetent.

Most advisors are undergrad business majors who couldn't get a job in consulting or at a Fortune 500 co and then went into selling insurance/financial advice.

Source, that was my backup if I couldn't get into consulting.

 

[Drax7]

If tesla finishes green , I am compelled to add .
this type of price action implies the weak hands were flushed out, and new shorts
should be under water.

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Wow macro's are gonna turn green today and TSLA is still going to be down 3-4%.............

Fine with me. So long as we don't have to deal with an ongoing macro plunge.

These guys can cap TSLA at whatever they like until Wednesday as far as I'm concerned.

 

[dw4ngg]

Just remember, financial advisors are still working and being paid wages.. many Tesla investors are doing their own thing now w/ independence of time. So.... let the results speak for themselves. Don't listen to advisors. I once almost used my good friend's mother as a wealth advisor. Then, she uttered the words "I don't like Tesla". Greatest non-decision I ever made...

 

[OrthoSurg]

910!!!!!
let’s close in the green motherlovers!