Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[EVMeister]

This is the Hummer bashing Roundtable? I'm in.

 

[Prunesquallor]

This is the Hummer bashing Roundtable? I'm in.

This thread is fun on sideways-trading days.

 

[jerry33]

That was my first reaction. My followup conclusion is that this is the vehicle you build to reach a very specific market that isn't currently addressed by an electric vehicle. We know that it will be niche, but that was also the case with Model S.

Not exactly. The S caused many people to purchase it who would never have considered a car in that price range. I'm pretty sure the Hummer won't.

 

[Prunesquallor]

I dare say they made the combination even worse. It's 3K pounds heavier than the ICE and now with what like 1000hp? The old one wasn't fast so it at least limited what stupid things you could do with it. This one... it's like all the things that were bad about it were multiplied and then some.

It will really be amusing when/if Superchargers are open to these monsters.

 

[Drezil]

It will really be amusing when/if Superchargers are open to these monsters.

Oh .. they will get so much hate when they block fast charges for hours on end ....

 

[Tyler34]

This is the Hummer bashing Roundtable? I'm in.

Talking about the hummer is one of the few things that hasnt been deemed off topic yet. Give it a couple hours though and it'll make it on the list.

 

[Paul_SF]

Oh .. they will get so much hate when they block fast charges for hours on end ....

I don’t think that will be a problem, considering the number of new SC coming online and the number of how many of them joke of an EV they will sell. Come on now, you guys know better than this.

 

[Prunesquallor]

Elon in reply-mode tonight.

edit: Toyota

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494060665459384322

 

[ggr]

Talking about the hummer is one of the few things that hasnt been deemed off topic yet. Give it a couple hours though and it'll make it on the list.

Mod: consider it deemed off-topic, especially since there's a separate thread for competing BEVs.

I've been doing too much moderation recently. Please, everyone, think before posting or replying in this thread.
--ggr

 

[MC3OZ]

us, this often leads them to invest in companies that destroy the environment and place our planet in greater peril (such as fossil fuel companies), because doing so can be quite profitable, at least in the short term.

And IMO it is very likely that those Fossil Fuel companies are bad investments because revenues, dividends and the share prices are perhaps on the cusp of being disrupted. The outcome is certain, even if the timing isn't certain.

The smart money has probably already moved. Funds are often slow to move, just because they have a lot of money to move.
People can move funds, faster than the funds can move money.

After the inevitable disruption and the stranding of assets, comes probable lawsuits which Hoover up the scant remaining breadcrumbs.
Soon or later, all of those Fossil Fuel companies are worth a very easy to remember nice round number.

I'm surprised how many people blindly trust funds, and don't consider where the fund is investing the money. Normally that is a "safe enough" practice, but these are not normal times.

However, there are ethical funds with no Fossil Fuel exposure, that is the smart each way bet.

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Well that's a strange day for the SP. Super low volume with some afternoon buying capped by 2x500k pushdowns. I guess the float is mighty tight, yet there's limited interest in buying or selling. Sounds about right!

 

[Artful Dodger]

This thread is fun on sideways-trading days.

FTFY.

Whees!

 

[RobDickinson]

It will really be amusing when/if Superchargers are open to these monsters.

Most of our DC chargers are 50kw, this would take 4+ hours. Imagine turning up behind it...

 

[neverdone]

The thread https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/refreshed-2021-model-x-and-model-x-plaid-waiting-room is over 1000 pages for people waiting for over a year for their Model X (LR and Plaid). My EDD was also changed from March to April 2022. I ordered March 1 2021. This is my second Model X; only waited 2.5 years for my first.

And now EDD has changed to July 2022. Lots of frustration in this thread.

 

[Artful Dodger]

Well that's a strange day for the SP. Super low volume with some afternoon buying capped by 2x500k pushdowns. I guess the float is mighty tight, yet there's limited interest in buying or selling. Sounds about right!

NASDAQ has published TSLA Short Interest data. Total SI was up about 1.6M shares between Jan 14 - 31, 2022. This corresponds strongly with the post-earnings slump, which is now confirmed as short-selling induced, artificial drop.

Also implies temporary.

Cheers!

 

[Electroman]

Why this video has 0 dislikes ?

Someone here was kind enough to post a Chrome plugin that will show you the dislike count. So here it is. By any Tesla video standards those viewing stats are very low.

 

[Ipcress]

That was my first reaction. My followup conclusion is that this is the vehicle you build to reach a very specific market that isn't currently addressed by an electric vehicle. We know that it will be niche, but that was also the case with Model S.

A different way to look at it - for the family / individual that really wants a Hummer style vehicle, would you rather they be driving this, or a diesel Hummer (I assume all other Hummers are diesel).

I vote for this. Even if the engineering on this appears to be 5 dollops brute force and then the recipe got lost.

It's a grotesque parody of an EV--uniquely American in its massive bloat. Even Arnold would (I hope) turn away from it.

 

[lafrisbee]

ant view. I found Autoline to be much more negative about Tesla than I am

it isn't so much what anyone claims or thinks.
it is the fact that the subject drew them in because it is valid
Which makes it BAF.

 

[Artful Dodger]

Nvidia beats on top and bottom, adds strong guidance | CNBC on Youtube

NVDA down after-hrs. Wall St. front ran the Nvida results on Monday, running the stock up ~10% before the results. TSLA down slightly as well after-hrs, but down differentially vs. the QQQ and other Tech majors.

Lol, Wall St.

 

[Thekiwi]

Why all the hatred for the Hummer EV???

Sure it’s inefficient, but it is still 100% electric and compared to a regular Hummer is an incredibly good vehicle for the environment.

I wouldn’t buy one of course, but we should be cheering on a revamp of any horrendous gas-guzzler into a pure EV model.