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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Krugerrand
Meow
That’s actually super articulate. I don’t for a second believe anything will be done even if we inundate the SEC with complaints, but I appreciate the effort.
More importantly, I love imagining the person responsible for managing complaints having their mailbox full for days on end, and then the SEC server crashing.
I see it clearly now: the SEC will blame these Musk cultists DDOS-ing their servers for the agencies inability to do any useful work...
So don't you guys dare to complain about the SEC not doing their job at eliminating market manipulation, when you are responsible for it all!
I showed my cousin (working at Uniper) .. and he replied that this is only a rookie view of things..
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That are the prices for energy on the spot market and futures..
If you want energy for 21 cents in 2026 you better order now
Winter futures are at 70-80cents with no relief in sight.
Remember: Europe is basically 1 energy net - variations are mostly due to subsidies, co2-penalties, taxes, etc.
So... Short electricity for 2023 betting solar will bail us out?
ByeByeJohnny
Active Member
Ok then. So it's capital loss. No one has ever been able to take a $44B tax write off since no ones ever been rich enough to have a $44B tax bill. But Elon at some point will. Not the options but regular shares sold to finance Mars.
He would probably have to do the full $44B himself since the co-financiers might not be so keen on this idea.
I assume a tax write off is usable for a number of years forward? So he really could buy Twitter, shut it down, and in the end get all the money back.
This plan gets better and better.
Maybe this is why Elon is firing all his lawyers? Because they can't come up with brilliant plans like this /S
thesmokingman
Active Member
This is some serious clown level *sugar* from Hyundai. It's not bad enough that you can GTA their cars with a USB plug, but they also secured their firmware with the first example AES key? This is 10 levels of clown here, omg.Software for other manufacturers is going great:
Software dev cracks Hyundai encryption with Google search
Top tip: Your RSA private key should not be copied from a public code tutorialwww.theregister.com
Some quotes:
Happy birthday to me today I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank my TMC fam (Even those that i have on ignore) for all the great advice, laughs and $$$ we have accumulated holding $TSLA. The future is bright for the planet due to Elon's vision and it sure does not hurt to make some $$$ along the journey! Here's to many more splits and $TSLAQ funding our retirements!
I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank my TMC fam (Even those that i have on ignore) for all the great advice, laughs and $$$ we have accumulated holding $TSLA. The future is bright for the planet due to Elon's vision and it sure does not hurt to make some $$$ along the journey! Here's to many more splits and $TSLAQ funding our retirements!
jkirkwood001
Active Member
Elon is all over this from the sound of it.
Ex-Twitter exec blows the whistle, alleging reckless and negligent cybersecurity policies | CNN Business
Twitter has major security problems that pose a threat to its own users' personal information, to company shareholders, to national security, and to democracy, according to an explosive whistleblower disclosure obtained exclusively by CNN and The Washington Post.www.cnn.com
The disclosure, sent last month to Congress and federal agencies, paints a picture of a chaotic and reckless environment at a mismanaged company that allows too many of its staff access to the platform's central controls and most sensitive information without adequate oversight. It also alleges that some of the company's senior-most executives have been trying to cover up Twitter's serious vulnerabilities, and that one or more current employees may be working for a foreign intelligence service.
The whistleblower, who has agreed to be publicly identified, is Peiter "Mudge" Zatko, who was previously the company's head of security, reporting directly to the CEO.
Zatko further alleges that Twitter's leadership has misled its own board and government regulators about its security vulnerabilities, including some that could allegedly open the door to foreign spying or manipulation, hacking and disinformation campaigns. The whistleblower also alleges Twitter does not reliably delete users' data after they cancel their accounts, in some cases because the company has lost track of the information, and that it has misled regulators about whether it deletes the data as it is required to do. The whistleblower also says Twitter executives don't have the resources to fully understand the true number of bots on the platform, and were not motivated to. Bots have recently become central to Elon Musk's attempts to back out of a $44 billion deal to buy the company (although Twitter denies Musk's claims).
Can you say 'whistleblower'?
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
So we have SP being quite obviously capped at $885 here. Since everyone needs to have their naked short position at zero today..... aren't traders just safely assuming $900+ by EOD?
Logically this capping needs to be unwound today rather than the usual "whenever", no? I guess theoretically MM's could have a stockpile of shares bought from Elon to perform these moves, but I doubt it.
Logically this capping needs to be unwound today rather than the usual "whenever", no? I guess theoretically MM's could have a stockpile of shares bought from Elon to perform these moves, but I doubt it.
thesmokingman
Active Member
Game set match!
Twitter whistleblower says company had security vulnerabilities and 'no appetite' to measure bots: reports
A whistleblower alleges that Twitter Inc. had serious security vulnerabilities on its platform and that its executives weren't incentivized to reduce spam...www.marketwatch.com
Additionally, the disclosures said that Twitter executives able to obtain bonuses linked to increases in the company’s count of daily active users but that they didn’t have explicit incentives to reduce spam or bot activity on the platform, according to the Washington Post. CNN highlighted that Zatko said Twitter “had no appetite to properly measure the prevalence of bots.”
Elon might get to buy TSLA shares after all ...
Hey boaters... hey Tesla!
I just got an eMail from Candela (Swedish electric boat co) who claims to have partnered with Polestar for charging their electric boats at the lake. The Candela is out of my price range for a boat (~1/4M last I checked) but it's quite efficient bc of the hydrofoils that lift the boat out of the water. This makes them usable as a taxi service since range greatly increase due to lower water drag. But a low-cost runabout I have yet to find. Likely not until Cybertruck comes out, or maybe a trailer carrying batteries for the boat recharging. Can't wait to explore the water in quiet. Maybe have Ludicrous mode to pull me up out of the water.
"Give-er" as they say in Canada,
"Hit it" in the USA,
Let's Go - in Tesla land.
I just got an eMail from Candela (Swedish electric boat co) who claims to have partnered with Polestar for charging their electric boats at the lake. The Candela is out of my price range for a boat (~1/4M last I checked) but it's quite efficient bc of the hydrofoils that lift the boat out of the water. This makes them usable as a taxi service since range greatly increase due to lower water drag. But a low-cost runabout I have yet to find. Likely not until Cybertruck comes out, or maybe a trailer carrying batteries for the boat recharging. Can't wait to explore the water in quiet. Maybe have Ludicrous mode to pull me up out of the water.
"Give-er" as they say in Canada,
"Hit it" in the USA,
Let's Go - in Tesla land.
Hello John,
This is Max, running communications at Candela, with an update on the latest news. First, we are happy to reveal that Swedish electric car maker Polestar will start providing batteries and charging systems for our boats. An agreement has been signed that will give us access to state-of-the-art automotive battery technology and allow us to scale our production. More information on the cooperation will be revealed at a later stage, stay tuned and we will keep you posted on the details.
This fall we are moving to our new production facility, north of Stockholm. Right now, we are 140 people working at Candela and hiring people for over a hundred positions globally during the rest of the year. Larger facilities and more staff will help us ramp up production of the C-8.
During spring and summer, we have done extensive testing of the new systems in the boat. But we also let a few, select journalists do independent tests of the C-8. We are happy to share the review done by British magazine Motor Boat & Yachting. Here’s a quote from the test done by editor-in-chief Hugo Andreae:
It’s not just an alternative to a petrol boat, it’s a genuinely different boat that offers a different experience, and in many ways a better one. In terms of emissions, in terms of quietness, in terms of a soft ride, it is a genuinely different and very enjoyable experience.”
We are happy to share the full video review that gives you an insight into what it’s like to fly a Candela C-8, and some behind-the-scenes from the factory. Just follow the link for a 24-minute video review of the C-8.
This is Max, running communications at Candela, with an update on the latest news. First, we are happy to reveal that Swedish electric car maker Polestar will start providing batteries and charging systems for our boats. An agreement has been signed that will give us access to state-of-the-art automotive battery technology and allow us to scale our production. More information on the cooperation will be revealed at a later stage, stay tuned and we will keep you posted on the details.
This fall we are moving to our new production facility, north of Stockholm. Right now, we are 140 people working at Candela and hiring people for over a hundred positions globally during the rest of the year. Larger facilities and more staff will help us ramp up production of the C-8.
During spring and summer, we have done extensive testing of the new systems in the boat. But we also let a few, select journalists do independent tests of the C-8. We are happy to share the review done by British magazine Motor Boat & Yachting. Here’s a quote from the test done by editor-in-chief Hugo Andreae:
It’s not just an alternative to a petrol boat, it’s a genuinely different boat that offers a different experience, and in many ways a better one. In terms of emissions, in terms of quietness, in terms of a soft ride, it is a genuinely different and very enjoyable experience.”
We are happy to share the full video review that gives you an insight into what it’s like to fly a Candela C-8, and some behind-the-scenes from the factory. Just follow the link for a 24-minute video review of the C-8.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
There's many ways to cap a stock besides naked shorting though- None of which would need to be unwound today.
Not really, the stuff in there may be bad for twitter generally but virtually 0 is relevant to the contents of Musks merger agreement.
Whole entire thread if you want to discuss that further though-
Elon & Twitter
Ditto- none of the things the whistle is being blown on are actually relevant to the Musk deal far as I can tell (though I'm sure Elon will imagine they are since he seems to have some version of the deal in his head that isn't reflected in the actual agreement)
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I can't wait until I can buy affordable electric watercraft. Especially as replacements for my PWCs because the vibration really wears on you after a bit.
I saw this story posted and my first thought though was that Polestar must not have much demand if they have extra batteries to sell off.
KBF
Model X owner (formerly Cdn Signature Model S)
She had texted me shortly after her talk, and I messaged back: "Ask the guy if we can invest in his mines" but he was already gone...
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Due to the SEC 2-Day Settlement Rule this may be true functionally, even though new (dividend) shares won't be in place until Thursday a.m.
And on a positive note, we have this new video:
Model 3 - Beta FSD 10.69 - More difficult left turn out of parking lot- 2022.16.3.10 - 23 Aug 22 (35 min ago)
Cheers to the Longs!
I don't think Candela is getting batteries from Polestar, I think it's a connection established to charge it at the lake.
This looks like it's struggling. At first I thought you were showing a bad one. Made me nervous watching.
Has Germany made a decision about keeping the remaining three nuclear power plants open?
What did Garrett Nelson use as the basis of his analysis?Good news, bad news
EV Winners and Losers From Inflation Reduction Act. Hint: Tesla Is a Winner.
Wall Street is digesting all the beneficiaries from the Inflation Reduction Act that includes spending to advance President Biden's climate change agenda. Tesla is a winner, as are GM and Ford.www.barrons.com
CFRA analyst Garrett Nelson called Tesla TSLA +1.63% (ticker: TSLA) the biggest winner in a recent research report. General Motors GM +0.77% (GM) and Ford MotorF +1.53% (F) also were called winners from the bill. That’s easy to understand. Most EVs produced by the trio will qualify for a $7,500 purchase tax credit. What’s more, Tesla sells the most EVs by a significant margin. The Model 3 and Model Y are the two bestselling EV models in the U.S.
Transportation companies using hydrogen are another set of winners from the Inflation Reduction Act. Those companies include NikolaNKLA +5.37% (NKLA), Plug Power (PLUG) and Cummins (CMI). The three companies have plans to use hydrogen gas as a fuel for heavy-duty trucking applications.
If he wasn't considering mineral sourcing then this doesn't mean much. If he did a true, full analysis I'd really be interested in seeing that.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
This part of the TWTR whistleblower saga is huge. This story was coming out regardless of Elon's interest.
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