Lots of junk scienceI'm so glad they lowered prices on Tesla cars. That'll make it more likely that you all slow down for pedestrians crossing the street according to the study.
If you drive an expensive car you're probably a jerk, scientists say | CNN
The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.www.cnn.com
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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oh really? perhaps you are just shooting from the hip?
I sold Tesla in the last year or so: Palihapitiya
Chamath Palihapitiya joins Delivering Alpha to discuss an opportunity he sees in distributed energy.
www.cnbc.com
Chamath Palihapitiya says he sold his Tesla stake to fund other investments
Longtime Tesla bull Chamath Palihapitiya said Wednesday he's cashed out his stake in the electric-car company in favor of new investment opportunities.
www.marketwatch.com
Chamath Palihapitiya Exits Tesla Stock. Here’s Why.
High-profile tech investor Chamath Palihapitiya said Wednesday that he sold his position in Tesla 'in the last year or so.'
www.barrons.com
He pumped and pumped, made the circus ride on TV, then sold.
The youtube video posted and discussed uses a brief video and more audio, from an OLD interview, one I saw, and likely others here saw also. The description of the video is all about crypto, not tesla, and tries to tie in interest in TSLA to crypto, years after the TSLA comments were made.
The poster of the video is suspect in my judgement.
It is only relevant to observe that there are wolves in sheep's clothing.
And perhaps a lot of lambs around.
Since Elon is always late with his predictions, maybe his prediction of Q4 being epic slipped a quarter to Q1
bkp_duke
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Thanks for this. Had to go over and read a few pages from that thread, put a gigantic smile on my face. NOT because I hate Ford, but because one way or another (Ford drops prices, or they don't), the mission to accelerate EV adoption just took a large step forward.
I'm bumping this post to restate my opinion that the bottom is in. These massive price cuts could have triggered another selloff but they didn't. For new, sustained lows, I think macros have to get really ugly or something has to go really bad for Tesla.
I would say Tesla declared war when they stated 50% growth annually this decade. They declared war with GigaShanghai, GigaBerlin and GigaAustin. The price cuts don’t change the plan at all. They just became necessary. The production increases are what will displace competitor’s vehicles.
Maybe other auto companies doubted the insane growth and the price cuts now make it real to them, but had Tesla not needed the price cuts, the same damage would have been done, because the same amount of their sales would have been displaced. That’s because Tesla was already maxing out production growth.
I have a hard time taking the context as you describe above. It seems pretty clear he's talking about Tesla. He's saying he expects it to double or triple and doesn't have a better place for his money. The next clip he's clearly acknowledging he sold TSLA in the following months.oh really? perhaps you are just shooting from the hip?
I sold Tesla in the last year or so: Palihapitiya
Chamath Palihapitiya joins Delivering Alpha to discuss an opportunity he sees in distributed energy.Chamath Palihapitiya says he sold his Tesla stake to fund other investments
Longtime Tesla bull Chamath Palihapitiya said Wednesday he's cashed out his stake in the electric-car company in favor of new investment opportunities.Chamath Palihapitiya Exits Tesla Stock. Here’s Why.
High-profile tech investor Chamath Palihapitiya said Wednesday that he sold his position in Tesla 'in the last year or so.'
He pumped and pumped, made the circus ride on TV, then sold.
The youtube video posted and discussed uses a brief video and more audio, from an OLD interview, one I saw, and likely others here saw also. The description of the video is all about crypto, not tesla, and tries to tie in interest in TSLA to crypto, years after the TSLA comments were made.
The poster of the video is suspect in my judgement.
Never the less, even if there's context I'm missing. I decided he was untrustworthy years ago when I heard him rattle off a list of "amazing" leaders. He named off a bunch of people I'd never heard of but slipped in Elon Musk. It's easy to know a person's true character if you see them in a high stress situation, otherwise you need to be able to spot subtle tipoffs.
EVNow
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How much did you pay end up paying ? This review says Franklin is more expensive than Tesla.
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These were convertible bonds. I am not aware of these being available to the general publi.
X Fan
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agreed and it's just a likely that Ford's remnants will be part of another Auto organization.I don't think that person understands Tesla's mission very well....but I'm sure they are enjoying their Mach-E! They'll probably be surprised when Tesla is selling over 5,000,000 vehicles per year a few years from now too!
I wonder how MSM can spin the following...
But Europe does not count OTA updates as recalls. I believe that recalls should be counted if you have to drag your vehicle into the dealership instead of doing nothing.
But Europe does not count OTA updates as recalls. I believe that recalls should be counted if you have to drag your vehicle into the dealership instead of doing nothing.
FSDtester#1
"Circle Jerk Old Guard" per cyborgLIS
Agreed... any company who goes bankrupt, there is protection in the law for consumers for about 10 years if memory serves.
Here is a link explaining some of the potential outcomes
Bankruptcy and Your New Car Warranty | Autobytel
Though it may be hard to digest, the potential downfall of at least one of Detroit's Big 3 is a real possibility. If such a tragedy were to take place, the ramifications would affect much more than yo
Edit: People were still able to get their Isuzu's serviced after they went the way of the dodo
EVNow
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I won't be surprised if Ford & GM either merge or become part of other global brands like VW.
We already have the example of Chrysler.
FSDtester#1
"Circle Jerk Old Guard" per cyborgLIS
If all car companies adjusted their MSRP for inflation to sustain the same margins.
Camry MSRP 24k in 2020
Camry MSRP 26k in 2022
7.2% increase
Model Y 2020 49k
Model Y 2023 53k
7.5% increase
Tesla adjusted their price exactly to baseline inflation, not "project inflation"
Camry MSRP 24k in 2020
Camry MSRP 26k in 2022
7.2% increase
Model Y 2020 49k
Model Y 2023 53k
7.5% increase
Tesla adjusted their price exactly to baseline inflation, not "project inflation"
Did not realize that Tesla stopped selling LR M3. Any reason why? I can see pausing shorter range models, but long range? Doesn’t make sense.
dhanson865
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simpler production if you limit a car to two trims. With long wait times they don't want to increase demand so they drop trims.
If at any point they are making more than they can sell they can add more trims to choose from to increase sales.
It's the same logic for the LR RWD Model 3 as it was for the SR-RWD Model Y. Those are trims they can bring back later.
ZenRockGarden
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Ramp of MYLR eating all available 2170 packs at the moment and/or switchover to the new more efficient manufacturing "Highlander" M3 assembly at the factories?
FSDtester#1
"Circle Jerk Old Guard" per cyborgLIS
Likely, I thoroughly believe based on enough anecdotal evidence that Tesla is going to drop an A bomb at Investors day. Most of our questions should be answered at that time and I don't think other manufacturers will like what they have to say..
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