Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[cusetownusa]

Gotta love my local MI news. Just had a story about how EVs have electronic door releases and people are getting trapped in them not knowing how to get out. They did show how to find the manual release in the model 3 (which is extremely easy to find of course). But not before several minutes of fear mongering, stories of a baby getting trapped, older couple on the way to Vegas in the desert and of course only showed Tesla (along with a fire).

Yeah, someone I know saw this story on the morning show and texted to warn me how dangerous my car is.

 

[M|S|M MYP]

I respect people's opinions, whether i agree with them or not, but doing this out of plain hate is definitely not warranted in any lifetime:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1dlb2wu/us_1_and_in_fort_lauderdale

Probably a member of $TSLAQ doing whatever they can to stop deliveries for Q2.

 

[aubreymcfato]

Unfortunately, Musk doesn't seem to care to speak with Meloni about this, every time he came in Italy he spoke about babies and right-wing stuff. The government just said yesterday that they don't want to put in other funds because they believe in "technological neutrality"... meaning they want to keep financing ICEs.

Sorry, I dunno.

Not great in May, I see only MG4 making the chart.
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I'm sorry @philw1776 and @MTL_HABS1909, but why the disagrees?
Musk came to Italy at least twice, and the second time he was special guest at Atreju, a far-right political convention. To my knowledge, he did not speak about climate change, but other political stuff.
I'm definitely biased against all these people's politics, but it's was a fair assessment.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I respect people's opinions, whether i agree with them or not, but doing this out of plain hate is definitely not warranted in any lifetime:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1dlb2wu/us_1_and_in_fort_lauderdale

Probably a member of $TSLAQ doing whatever they can to stop deliveries for Q2.

A preview to come for what happens to unattended robotaxis, perhaps.

 

[willow_hiller]

A preview to come for what happens to unattended robotaxis, perhaps.

Coming from you that sounds more like a threat than a warning.

And plus I haven't seen this story confirmed anywhere reputable. Everywhere it's posted the details change. Given the flat shape of the Cybertruck hood, it's probably pretty easy to superimpose some spray paint graphics with video-editing software. Maybe even easier than spray painting dozens of $100k vehicles staged for delivery somewhere there would be security cameras and/or security guards.

 

[tslagreen]

Coming from you that sounds more like a threat than a warning.

And plus I haven't seen this story confirmed anywhere reputable. Everywhere it's posted the details change. Given the flat shape of the Cybertruck hood, it's probably pretty easy to superimpose some spray paint graphics with video-editing software. Maybe even easier than spray painting dozens of $100k vehicles staged for delivery somewhere there would be security cameras and/or security guards.

Agreed. What a low comment. Kind of tells you where his/her head is it. Bad actor.

 

[Drax7]

Your cost of solar is off by 100%. I have 5 quotes for 10kW all over $30k. Don't count the tax credit, because that doesn't change the price I have to pay the installer. And electricity is closer to .18/kWh for me so solar is a 12 year payback, but I'm paying it all up front in today's dollars.

Similar quotes in palm beach county florida.

 

[NicoV]

Too much electricity this summer in Belgium: https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20240621_95479111

Due to the increasing amount of solar energy, some of the electricity capacity may have to be switched off. On a summer day, consumption is a about 7GW, and with 10GW of solar installed and 4 to 5 GW of nuclear, we’re looking at a surplus of 7 GW.
Good for demand shifters like EVs and batteries.
Edit: I won’t bore you by mentioning that my cars are again charging at negative prices. Oops, I did it again.

 

[sunwarriors]

I respect people's opinions, whether i agree with them or not, but doing this out of plain hate is definitely not warranted in any lifetime:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1dlb2wu/us_1_and_in_fort_lauderdale

Probably a member of $TSLAQ doing whatever they can to stop deliveries for Q2.

From some of news videos/reports I've seen, they had a few million dollars worth in a bad? area of town (residential area too). Might be worth using a more secured lot, especially if the cars are going to be there for a good while.

 

[SO16]

Yeah, someone I know saw this story on the morning show and texted to warn me how dangerous my car is.

Yup. AZ did too.

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[sunwarriors]

Coming from you that sounds more like a threat than a warning.

And plus I haven't seen this story confirmed anywhere reputable. Everywhere it's posted the details change. Given the flat shape of the Cybertruck hood, it's probably pretty easy to superimpose some spray paint graphics with video-editing software. Maybe even easier than spray painting dozens of $100k vehicles staged for delivery somewhere there would be security cameras and/or security guards.

Wait a bit more. I'm pretty certain this isn't made up and you'll see more reputable sources "you" trust post this. Using all those video edit/graphics goes counter to people simply being lazy. Arrests (with all the crime you see now), isn't a big deterrent for a few drunk (or not) guys who thinks this is funny.

Even though I'm one to also agree this simply isn't right, Elon has generated a pretty large amount of animosity with a good chunk of the populace after his Twitter purchase, whether you agree with it or not. Note it's not F* TSLA, it's specifically F* Elon.

There has been many reports of people disrupting driverless cars before. People state watch out Uber/Lyft drivers, RT will replace all of you. Killing one's livelihood makes people do retaliatory things (since they're jobless and have nothing to do / more time):

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/26/1195695051/driverless-cars-san-francisco-waymo-cruise

Is this legit enough?

‘F— Elon': Cybertrucks tagged with vulgar message for Tesla CEO in Fort Lauderdale

Someone in Fort Lauderdale isn’t a fan of Tesla CEO Elon Musk. Video posted by Only in Dade showed multiple Cybertrucks with the message “F— Elon” written on them at a parking lot.

www.nbcmiami.com

 

[GOVA]

I'm sorry @philw1776 and @MTL_HABS1909, but why the disagrees?
Musk came to Italy at least twice, and the second time he was special guest at Atreju, a far-right political convention. To my knowledge, he did not speak about climate change, but other political stuff.
I'm definitely biased against all these people's politics, but it's was a fair assessment.

Sugar seriously?

Now, you are gong to assess how Musk had talked to your country PM? Here?

 

[unk45]

Sugar seriously?

Now, you are gong to assess how Musk had talked to your country PM? Here?

Elon in Italy and with Meloni was well documented in much of the EU, although i saw no substantive reporting outside the EU. Based on reporting in Le Monde, which I read every day, I think @aubreymcfato made an accurate representation. Considering the important of the EU and potentially italy to Tesla interests it is definitely to our TSLA investor interests to understand at least the general tone of our CEO's conversations with leaders of major countries. I did not read the Italian press so I do not know how coverage was handled there.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Coming from you that sounds more like a threat than a warning.

It's not. Don't know how you jumped to that conclusion lol

Perhaps you should spend some time in thought and read up on the stories of what happens in the actual robotaxis that exist today. They're not all sunshine and rainbows.

 

[Dikkie Dik]

EA just posted his ‘first look inside Starfactory with EM’ on YT, of topic but since it’s the weekend, enjoy:

 

[Ipcress]

Tesla should exit the solar business. All it’s doing is causing reputational damage and wasting money. If the future really is Optimus and robotaxi, wasting resources on solar makes even less sense. It seems Musk would rather keep up the charade than admit the Solarcity acquisition is a bust

Or, appoint someone head of that division, with decision making power and a contract that, like Elon's, rewards growth with lots of money! The original thesis for acquiring Solarcity was a good one. The implementation as @Tony73 says is just another opportunity lost and ongoing stain on Tesla's reputation.

 

[willow_hiller]

They're not all sunshine and rainbows.

Nor are they all dark and stormy.

 

[aubreymcfato]

Sugar seriously?

Now, you are gong to assess how Musk had talked to your country PM? Here?

I'm simply stating that the liason Meloni-Musk have, that has been flaunted quite much on this forum, is purely political and - at present - completely useless for Tesla. If Meloni brings Tesla to invest in Italy for a battery or semi factory I'll be the first to cheer.
As of now, my government is quite pro-fossil and it shows.

 

[ToTheStars]

EA just posted his ‘first look inside Starfactory with EM’ on YT, of topic but since it’s the weekend, enjoy:

Thanks for the link!
Would you be so kind to expand the acronyms next time?

 

[insaneoctane]

Too much electricity this summer in Belgium: https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20240621_95479111

Due to the increasing amount of solar energy, some of the electricity capacity may have to be switched off. On a summer day, consumption is a about 7GW, and with 10GW of solar installed and 4 to 5 GW of nuclear, we’re looking at a surplus of 7 GW.
Good for demand shifters like EVs and batteries.
Edit: I won’t bore you by mentioning that my cars are again charging at negative prices. Oops, I did it again.

Jealous. California has recently done the opposite. They approved NEM3.0 which preserves the various utilities death grip of wasteful spending, profits and control while driving residential solar ROI longer and longer into decade plus territory (multi-decade without battery storage), essentially halting solar installations in the state overnight. Jealous.