JRP3
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For years he's made ridiculously inaccurate over the top bullish posts about short term moves in the stock price. Some people thought he actually knew something and lost money because of it.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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JRP3
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See my previous post. I disagree with your assessment.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Next week, Max Pain is 500 but the whole metric is skewed by the long-since-dead blobs of 10s of 1000s of DOTM Puts in the nether regions (~$10 to $250 Strikes). You have to look at the distribution of PUT/CALLS near the current share price to get a better sense of where things tend to get pushed. Also, MMs will react strongly on Expiration Dates with large numbers of calls (like this week) vs small numbers of calls where their total exposure is less.
It actually says Earnings 1/29 After Close [est] -- which I take to mean [estimate]. Certainly Tesla themselves have made no announcement yet.
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Barron's - 15 minutes ago: Tesla Probably Won’t Merge With Volkswagen. But It’s Not a Crazy Idea.
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Maybe, if Volkswagen can't beat the electric-vehicle (EV) pioneer at producing and selling clean car technology it should join them instead. Marrying old and new car technology could make sense. A merger between the two automotive giants is a very remote possibility, so what is generating this far-fetched idea?
The Financial Times reported Thursday Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess is prepared to "slaughter sacred cows" and that the "time of the traditional auto maker was over." What's more, he addressed Tesla's market capitalization, lamenting that Elon Musk's company was valued like a tech company while Volkswagen was valued like a car company.
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Maybe, if Volkswagen can't beat the electric-vehicle (EV) pioneer at producing and selling clean car technology it should join them instead. Marrying old and new car technology could make sense. A merger between the two automotive giants is a very remote possibility, so what is generating this far-fetched idea?
The Financial Times reported Thursday Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess is prepared to "slaughter sacred cows" and that the "time of the traditional auto maker was over." What's more, he addressed Tesla's market capitalization, lamenting that Elon Musk's company was valued like a tech company while Volkswagen was valued like a car company.
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Wow. I think I've hit the stalk twice in seven years. And I've never had it actually engage.
Oh ok I see. What would be ironic is if it goes even more crazy up after earnings and he’s not in the stock yet has been calling that it would go up all this time.
I find it striking that so many Tesla reporters take apparent glee in the company's misfortune (whether real or manufactured). I don't know if this all relates back to Elon's broader disparaging comments about the press or what, but I find it very off-putting (and, as a supporter of the press's role in democracy, disappointing).
As a frequent mobile browser, apologies in advance for those posters who occasionally may get schizophrenic notifications from me where I fat-finger the wrong rating multiple times.
Bizarre that he went 100% cash in the course of one day, with such a long time horizon, with so many potential positive catalysts in front of us. Any swift movement upward (which is easily possible) would give him serious FOMO.
I don't get it.
I am surprised that they have not created a big delivery center at GF1 to none Californian buyers combined with a factory visit. It could have cut down on the cost of transportation.
Timing the market is easy - didn’t you know?
Justice would be Tesla announcing Q4 earnings will be Jan 21st………….ok I would settle for Jan 22nd or 23rd as well
I bet a single 31st Jan. 600$ call contract that:
A) ER will be before that date, and
B) it will be good....
Very early on during my time here, I interpreted a tongue-in-cheek post from a bull with a sense of humor as a serious one and stupidly bought some deep OTM options (only worth several hundred dollars, but still) that I really shouldn't have bought. It was a good lesson that I haven't forgotten.
Folks would do well to be mindful of the fact that there are inexperienced lurkers on this board who give way too much credence to people's opinions / jokes about price movements; and by the same token, those less-experienced readers should really do their own homework before putting real money on the line based on an offhand comment from a complete stranger.
Reposting this again since the topic keeps coming up: earnings could be announced as late as next Wednesday without breaking precedent.
2016:
Q1: Announced 4/20 / Held 5/4 (EPS: -2.13)
Q2: Announced 7/19 / Held 8/3 (EPS: -2.09)
Q3: Announced 10/7 / Held 10/26 (EPS: 0.14)
Q4: Announced 2/2 / Held 2/22 (EPS: -0.60)
2017:
Q1: Announced 4/13 / Held 5/3 (EPS: -2.04)
Q2: Announced 7/11 / Held 8/2 (EPS: -2.04)
Q3: Announced 10/19 / Held 11/1 (EPS: -3.70)
Q4: Announced 2/2 / Held 2/7 (EPS: -4.05)
2018:
Q1: Announced 4/19 / Held 5/2 (EPS: -4.19)
Q2: Announced 7/19 / Held 8/1 (EPS: -4.22)
Q3: Announced 10/22 / Held 10/24 (EPS: 1.75)
Q4: Announced 1/18 / Held 1/30 (EPS: 0.78)
2019:
Q1: Announced 4/11 / Held 4/24 (EPS: -4.10)
Q2: Announced 7/11 / Held 7/24 (EPS: -2.31)
Q3: Announced 10/9 / Held 10/23 (EPS: 0.78)
Q4: ???????????????
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Thanks - 53yo and still can't read properly...
Just buy some short term PUTS (insurance) and relax
It's doubly bizarre because I'm assuming he paid dearly in terms of capital gains for the cash-out. The price on his positions would have to drop substantially just to counter that loss alone.
He said is based on weekly chart. Of course, many here say it works until it doesn't etc.
And lately, Friday is a usually a push down by MMs and Monday it goes the other way...plus we're expecting the ER announcement anytime.
I prob wouldn't sell (calls) and not touching shares, but just curious what can be seen from this TSLA - Tesla Inc.
If someone traded on such posts, I think they can mostly thank themselves for the outcome.
??? There's only one way to incur substantial capital gains tax...
...which is to say, "make a lot of money"
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