Mo City
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The market cap race with TM is getting tighter. $161B to $151B. TSLA takes the lead at $869.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Should tesla not maximize returns for its investors?
Anyone thinks macro took a dive from cnbcs headline about NY press conference? "Back to where we started"..I thought case spiked and went back erasing all their gains. Wtf CNBC.
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Watts_Up
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How did you find this information? The Nürburgring Supercharger is not on the tesla.com/findus ?
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The dive was simultaneous with the release of this report: Vaccine experts say Moderna's Covid-19 data leave big questions
StealthP3D
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That's very insensitive of you to remind us that we can't have a Cybertruck yet. Many of us are chomping at the bit and it's like a slap across the face to bring this up. I've even considered suspended animation for 18 months but what I saw, when I looked into the current state of the art, was not pretty. So I'm stuck waiting, along with everyone else who has reservations in.
I know this is a big request for a cat, but can you try to show a little sensitivity!
Mo City
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This is what I used. It is based on Yahoo Finance. Not sure if Google or Yahoo is wrong.
Top 25 Automakers by Market Cap - Google Drive
Watts_Up
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I will never rent my car, because I don't want to take 50 pictures of it every time I would rent it.
So the additional business income provided with the FSD robotaxi will not apply in my situation.
ByeByeJohnny
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The discussion was about how many cars would sell for $200k including FSD. I assume you are paying $7k for your FSD. Would you have bought it for $200k?
That doesn't mean FSD won't make money from goods transportation. Actually eventually more money might be made from that than from people transportation.
LoL okay. What a dumb article. Spends all those words on "what was released was not a credible peer reviewed study". Yeah no *sugar* Sherlock.
With the potential to V2G arising does nobody think that there is an opportunity for Tesla owners of cars with the new batteries to also make money from the V2G feature. There's going to be more than one way tesla can make money off of selling cars to people
Maximizing the returns for investors is what you do when you run out of ideas and can't grow anymore.
willow_hiller
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A Norwegian reservation holder for the VW ID3 1ST has received a price list for the vehicles in Norway: VW ID.3 1st prices finally announced : electricvehicles
"ID.3 1ST base: under kr. 355.000,-* (36,000 US$) ID.3 1ST Plus: under kr. 405.000,-* (41,000 US$) ID.3 1ST Max: under kr. 455.000,-* (46,000 US$)"
The 1ST, regardless of trim, comes with a 58 kWh pack and a WLTP range of 420 km, making it most comparable to the Model 3 SR+ which has a 409 km WLTP rating.
For comparison, the Model 3 SR+ is presently 430,900 NOK; the LR AWD is 484,900 NOK; and the Performance is 539,900 NOK.
I was under the impression that VW was aiming to undercut Tesla dramatically on price, and they don't seem to have achieved that.
"ID.3 1ST base: under kr. 355.000,-* (36,000 US$) ID.3 1ST Plus: under kr. 405.000,-* (41,000 US$) ID.3 1ST Max: under kr. 455.000,-* (46,000 US$)"
The 1ST, regardless of trim, comes with a 58 kWh pack and a WLTP range of 420 km, making it most comparable to the Model 3 SR+ which has a 409 km WLTP rating.
For comparison, the Model 3 SR+ is presently 430,900 NOK; the LR AWD is 484,900 NOK; and the Performance is 539,900 NOK.
I was under the impression that VW was aiming to undercut Tesla dramatically on price, and they don't seem to have achieved that.
the fact the market moves at all on these things, just is reinforces, how much manipulation happens daily. they released the results of 8, yes 8 people. a company that has never brought a drug to market, releasing the results of 8 people with little other data, should not move the market at all.
I am a big proponent of if you buy a stock, you need to hold for 24 hours before you sell. manipulation would be drastically reduced instantly. If I recall, there was a proposal once, for stocks to be held for one second before you could sell, and even that was too long. just computer algorithms, skimming penny after penny, generating billions in wealth, from nothing. unsustainable.
The whole market is manipulated. SPY volume is 25-40% of normal. Range bound for 3 weeks. Irrational exuberance on unsubstantiated news. TSLA is part of the whole package now. Buffett & Chamath are sitting out. Nuff said.
Moderna taps red hot stock demand with $1.34B offering
From yesterday:
Moderna announced the pricing of 17.6 million shares at $76.00 each, with underwriters having 30 days to purchase more than another 2.6 million shares.
Gross proceeds from the offering will be about $1.34 billion, topping the company's stated goal of $1.25 billion.
From yesterday:
Moderna announced the pricing of 17.6 million shares at $76.00 each, with underwriters having 30 days to purchase more than another 2.6 million shares.
Gross proceeds from the offering will be about $1.34 billion, topping the company's stated goal of $1.25 billion.
bkp_duke
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Grid operators are notorious for making everything residential feeding into the grid unprofitable.
Here with SDG&E if solar customers over-produce, at the customer's yearly true-up they get paid for their over production about 3c/kwh.
V2G could be helpful with some rate arbitrage on the highest rate peak hours, but I don't forsee the grid operators allowing customers to feed back into their grid at will and cutting their profits.
Of course it is possible the SP went down because of this:
GM says it is 'almost there' on million-mile electric vehicle battery
Lolololololo....
GM says it is 'almost there' on million-mile electric vehicle battery
Lolololololo....
Not if it means a sizeable percentage of people who won't use Robitaxi cannot afford to buy a Tesla. What am I missing here?
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