Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[JRP3]

Brace yourselves...this is gonna be a bumpy ride:

You're as dense as most of the bears:

"Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured."

If I say "Am considering putting you on ignore. Ignore button located." have I ignored you?

 

[j6Lpi429@3j]

I'm actually quite excited for trading to start again. I think we will see a decent recovery. Weekends always give people time to sit and reflect on FUD and realize what bullshit it is.
I just transferred some funds to my dealing account. Not quite able to buy more at this price due to some margin losses, but even a small recovery and ill load up again .

 

[GeoX750]

Bingo. I couldn’t tell you one ad I watched on TV last night and what it was about. However, I do remember the very first time seeing a Tesla, talking to an owner.....and ESPECIALLY driving one.

That being said, I do remember some funny commercials from over the years. Never made me want to buy what they were selling though.

Unless your kitchen is full of generics, your house devoid of any brands, and your clothes from Costco, it's safe to say you have been affected by advertising.

 

[RobStark]

Right, he likes to point out that he has a day time job.

With that in mind, it's notable that CNBC chooses to give him their time...

He hasn't finished building his shop yet.

Rather financially dangerous to give up day job just yet.

 

[Hock1]

The recent $375 drop to $235 of TSLA has been disheartening. So I run this simple TSLA risk analysis in my head:

1) Do I believe EVs will continue to escalate in production (at the expense of ICE) to become the most predominant form of auto transportation for both personal and commercial vehicles in their trillion $ worldwide market? In No, sell my TSLA. If Yes, go to 2.

2) Do I believe Tesla is the worldwide leader in premium EVs, and are they continuing to execute on their mission statement, learning from their mistakes, and growing YoY? If No, sell my TSLA. If Yes, go to 3.

3) Stay the course. Fight the FUD. The tide is changing. Be a part of the change to a brighter future.

"Fight the Fud" is the key right now. MSM is winning the battle to destroy Tesla. IMO, Tesla should not advertise, per se, but should do whatever it takes to get the truth out there. Tesla has to take control of the narrative or, at the very least, neutralize it.

 

[EVNow]

My bad...he responded to, not retweet. During the leaf blower stupidity.

Not the same thing *at all*. Looks like you are just under a lot of stress (i.e. if you are actually long).

 

[Causalien]

Dude...I've been in the stock market forever and believe me when I tell you its a tricksy ****ing beast and absolutely anything is possible. If you don't have a complete understanding that you can lose 100% of your investment you shouldn't be here.

I'm hugely bullish on Tesla. I've owned companies that I've been hugely bullish on and they went bankrupt. That alone should give you pause: A guy that was hugely bullish on a company that went bankrupt is now hugely bullish on TSLA. Some scary *sugar*.

Dude. If that is the case, then you are just repeating stuff any investor should know already. Just as any stock can go to zero. A warning should be given that any stock can go close to infinity.

From someone who has been in the stock market forever x infinity.

 

[EVNow]

Unless your kitchen is full of generics, your house devoid of any brands, and your clothes from Costco, it's safe to say you have been affected by advertising.

Not really. I buy based on reviews at Amazon. Don't watch any TV and I filter out ads on the web (i.e. by habit don't look at them).

ps : I do think Tesla should do simple web ads.

 

[RobStark]

Evidently I’m not “most people”. And proud of it!!

Most people say that too.

Seems everybody is a unique rebel.

 

[j6Lpi429@3j]

Not really. I buy based on reviews at Amazon. Don't watch any TV and I filter out ads on the web (i.e. by habit don't look at them).

read 'the advertised mind'. its a great book. It explains how decent advertising is entirely subconscious. it works on you. definitely. 100%.

 

[Aieukl378]

Why are you posting so much today?

Good question and I have a too long answer. Having been a TSLA investor for awhile(first big buy was bottom of FUD dip Feb, 2016 which was awesome!) and continually picking up additional shares to date. Anyhow, with the new SEC settlement/plan being a huge win for Elon the stock should most certainly rally off these low..right? Well it should...but having lived through the 420 tweet(remember...this was about terrible communication) and it's 40% decline to date, what has changed? NOTHING. They(Elon and company) continue to communicate horrendously(see earnings and well basically every thing they've said or tweeted) and have completely lost control of the Tesla Message. Do they(Elon and company) get this?

Anyhow, to answer your question, tomorrow is the first trading day the new SEC plan is in play. Because I really want Tesla and all of us(employees, investors, owners) to succeed I think it's important for the TSLA investing collective to make some noise about our displeasure with the way Tesla distributes it's message.

Also, as tomorrow goes, I'm super nervous on day one Elon is going to make some snide SEC remark on Twitter killing any chance of a rebound. Will spouting off on TMC help...probably not...but beats doing nothing.

 

[Intl Professor]

Well since we are in the weekend and of topic....when it comes to the written word...I aint so good.
I believe I think well and speak well. But translating that into easy to read text is...um ...a challenge.

My spelling is as a third grader....I am pretty sure I flunked grammar. It does not help that the English language is a mess...I usually post from my phone...and am in a hurry.

All this to say I am sure some of my post's look like they were written buy Krugerrand's cat.

Better Krugerrand's than Schrödinger's, although I'm skeptical of its fists.

 

[lklundin]

WOW! The shorts are posting a lot this weekend.

Disrupting TMC would prevent a lot of useful Tesla analysis from being available to the few media sites that are not hostile to Tesla.

 

[azaz]

Tesla boosting referral program again...wont help the stock Monday

 

[Aieukl378]

I'm actually quite excited for trading to start again. I think we will see a decent recovery. Weekends always give people time to sit and reflect on FUD and realize what bullshit it is.
I just transferred some funds to my dealing account. Not quite able to buy more at this price due to some margin losses, but even a small recovery and ill load up again .

We are so beyond oversold it's super likely we'll bounce tomorrow but will it hold is the question...

 

[Aieukl378]

At least some, if not most, of this current action is a REALLY intense bear attack with heavy shorting focused on ripping down through the $250 support. That obviously then triggered some substantial selling. Not saying there isn't institutional selling, but this stock is uniquely traded as a result of being poorly distributed with consolidated insider ownership and heavy short interest. At times, that dynamic produces big drops that can look like heavy institutional selling even though it's really basically an intense bear attack. This is why TSLA is so intensely volatile, with huge drops and rapid climbs. Take a look at this chart from July 2017 when there wasn't even any news going on, just an orchestrated bear raid surrounding the July 4th holiday. Stock rapidly dropped from $386 to $306 (21%). This was near the ATH level, so there certainly was some profit taking, but the point remains. High volume red candles yet it wasn't because institutional longs were dumping. Look at the rapid recovery over just 5 weeks. That's just TSLA.

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Yeah TSLA swings are a total trip!

 

[Krugerrand]

Most people say that. Yet, advertising moves the sales needle.

Sameway most people say they are better than average drivers or are smarter than average.

Except, that if the product isn’t owned by you then you did not in fact fall for the advertisement.

*checks cupboard* *nope, no Fruity Pebbles or Cialis*

 

[Aieukl378]

You're as dense as most of the bears:

"Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured."

If I say "Am considering putting you on ignore. Ignore button located." have I ignored you?

Didn't know our current president frequented the TMC investors forum.

 

[JRP3]

Didn't know our current president frequented the TMC investors forum.

Um, what?

 

[Causalien]

OT warning.


Asking for some rule of thumb for owning luxury cars? Doing the math for roadster 2020 after buying a house.

What is the usual liquid net worth requirement for owning a 250k car and the cash flow required to maintain it?

Occassional driving.