Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[carterm2]

Regarding the morality of shorting stock.

I did not think it reasonable... but the more there are macro events, particularly ones like China’s past devaluation of their currency, and what appears to be an unplanned and illogical tariff policy and in particular the Tesla Q1 reversal and forward looking statement...

Shorting seems reasonable and defensive.

I still am uncomfortable with borrowing shares and getting money, as though it is riskier than buying stock... Probably never bothers a trader, or AI.

Is there room for discussion about shorting? Or is it taboo?

 

[electrichapp]

bought more shares. just can't help buying discount

 

[Singuy]

It's never going to break the strongest support line: $0.

Last year it did wonders.

I will be so annoyed if I have to pay to sell my shares..lol

Anyways, liquidated another batch of other stocks to buy more TSLA. I have way more shares than I first anticipated. Just did the math that if this stock ever goes back to the price of the first batch of shares i paid for at 360, I'll have over a quarter mil. One can dream right? Oh well..keep trying to catch this falling knife.

 

[KSilver2000]

its possible the analysis of may sales figures might arrest the downward pressure though. there has been a long time with no counter to the 'demand is falling' bullshit. hard sales figures will change that.

Yes, hard sales figures will counter all the downward slide. But, we won’t get that until Q2 report.
Estimates are just estimates. How did estimates for Q1 fare when the hard sales numbers were released?

 

[sunny-value]

Regarding the morality of shorting stock.

I did not think it reasonable... but the more there are macro events, particularly ones like China’s past devaluation of their currency, and what appears to be an unplanned and illogical tariff policy and in particular the Tesla Q1 reversal and forward looking statement...

Shorting seems reasonable and defensive.

I still am uncomfortable with borrowing shares and getting money, as though it is riskier than buying stock... Probably never bothers a trader, or AI.

Is there room for discussion about shorting? Or is it taboo?

The way I view shorting is that it is the only form of time travel currently allowed. Meaning you get to sell something before you buy it. Its no different than buying and then selling later on, in reverse. In normal trading, you decide when to buy. Then you wait, perhaps a long time. One day you decide to sell. Well in shorting, you decide to sell, and then you wait a long time to decide when to buy it. Transaction costs, gains/losses, etc are all the same. But risk is not, obviously since it can only go down 100% but can go up many hundreds of % (in the long run). However, I think shorties take care of this by adding shares shorted as it declines, so they are basically reinvesting profits and compounding.

 

[Nocturnal]

Amazing how many new members to the forum are "waiting til $150 to buy".

Are you concerned that they may just be trolling?

 

[sunny-value]

I will be so annoyed if I have to pay to sell my shares..lol

Anyways, liquidated another batch of other stocks to buy more TSLA. I have way more shares than I first anticipated. Just did the math that if this stock ever goes back to the price of the first batch of shares i paid for at 360, I'll have over a quarter mil. One can dream right? Oh well..keep trying to catch this falling knife.

That's very interesting. 360 is very close to where I sold last summer. I bought around Jan 7 2012 (I remember the date cuz it was right around my birthday). I hope this is all spec money for you and not for college funds, retirement, a down payment on a home, etc.

 

[scaesare]

Aren't the v1's the original "angular" designs that did 90kW? I don't think any thing did less than that until the non-shared 72kW "Urban Charger" design came out a year or so ago....

Hmm... just got to the point in the Ride the Lightning podcast where Elon referred to some early 75kW Superchargers.... huh, never heard of them. I recall the Supercharger unveil event stipulating they were 90kW from the get-go.

 

[sunny-value]

Right now I think it will keep dropping a lot until right before earnings.

 

[Unpilot]

Yay...?!... We're over 180

 

[Opus BC fan]

Whip me
Beat me
Make me buy 40 more shares of TSLA...

 

[AcesDealt]

Funding Secured. 220.

 

[Nocturnal]

Can we start shaming some of these super wealthy Hollywood types that talk a good talk about climate change into buying TSLA?

FAANGs taking a huge Trump-dump today. TSLA is actually beating most FAANGS:

Trump Dump? Is that where you are angrily typing on your phone at 2AM while trying to pass a 6 pack of hamberdurs?

 

[JRP3]

Yay...?!... We're over 180

Aaaannnnd not...

 

[Todd Burch]

FAANGS taking a huge Trump-dump today. TSLA is actually beating most FAANGS:

 

[KSilver2000]

FAANGs taking a huge Trump-dump today. TSLA is actually beating most FAANGS:

AAPL and NFLX aren’t doing as bad as TSLA.


Interesting that AAPL and TSLA at one point today was the same SP. I’d wager AAPL is better short term play for month of June before TSLA Q2 ER.

 

[elasalle]

AAPL and NFLX aren’t doing as bad as TSLA.


Interesting that AAPL and TSLA at one point today was the same SP. I’d wager AAPL is better short term play for month of June before TSLA Q2 ER.

Apple drops on report that Justice Department has jurisdiction over potential antitrust probe

 

[CorneliusXX]

Right now I think it will keep dropping a lot until right before earnings.

probably 2 a lots, maybe even three.

 

[sunny-value]

Whip me
Beat me
Make me buy 40 more shares of TSLA...

You could just sell some puts around 150. If it doesnt drop that low at least you collect some premium for your troubles.

 

[JRP3]

I wonder how many others are in a similar situation as myself. I'm tapped out at the moment and the foreseeable future so I can't take advantage of these prices, and with the huge hit to my portfolio this year I can't justify my purchase of a Model 3 so I'm going to get my $1k deposit back. Might as well use it to buy a few more shares. *sigh* The wait for ≡ continues...