Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[StealthP3D]

Do you think he is knowingly Jordan Belforting this whole thing or does he actually genuinely believe he make fool cells somehow miraculously work ?

It could "work" in the physical sense but it cannot be self-sustaining and I'm pretty sure he knows that.

 

[Don TLR]

Another wildfire caused by ICE vehicles, get them off the road! Thousands of homes are currently threatened by this fire

 

[Khamul]

More OT:

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Spoiler

They use kerosene (refined lamp oil) for the Falcon rockets and methane for the mars rocket (Starship). Neither is any worse than all the diesel or gasoline that's being used everywhere. They do use a small amount of hypergolic fuel on the dragon spacecrafts - these are definitely NOT green fluffy fuels, but there's no way around them for abort motors and the like.

The fuel choice for Starship is driven by what they need to colonize Mars, and there's a lot of factors involved:

The choice was between kerosene, methane and hydrogen. Kerosene is the least efficient fuel, methane is in the middle and hydrogen is the most efficient (basically, how far can one tonne of fuel propel your rocket). Kerosene is very cheap and it's also very dense, but it cokes the engines, making it harder to reuse them many times without refurbishment. Hydrogen on the other hand doesn't coke, but it is fiendishly difficult to contain, because of the very small molecule size. It's also by far the least dense fuel of the three, meaning the tanks would have to be much larger (and therefore weigh more, giving less efficiency). Methane is middle of the pack: dense, but not so dense as kerosene; cokes, but not as much as kerosene, it's cheap and it's far easier to store and handle than hydrogen.

Methane can also be produced on mars using the sabatier proces, which is a significant pro when you want to colonize mars!

All in all, Starship and the Falcons do not reduce CO2 in any way, but they are an infinitesimal part of the global CO2 emissions.

I forgot to link a good video on this issue. It's by Everyday Astronaut, who's really good at explaining these things. It is however almost one hour long, so this is only if you're really, really curious.

 

[Snerruc]

Why not simplify your life by selling all the ones you don't recognize and putting it all in TSLA?

Not an advice.

When you are 80 with a wife in memory care, you don’t put all your eggs in one basket even Tesla. Besides wouldn’t make life any easier.

 

[Unpilot]

When you are 80 with a wife in memory care, you don’t put all your eggs in one basket even Tesla. Besides wouldn’t make life any easier.

Um....is 99.9 percent ok?

 

[Knightshade]

Mob rule doesn't work and would not serve TSLA investors.

Except that time I got banned for a week for factually (and with sources) pointing out Elon had promised Tesla would have Robotaxis approved in at least 1 or more jurisdictions this year and certain fanboys got mad about it-- despite that timing miss (one in a series of em on autonomy specifically, a VERY key driver of future revenue for the company) being incredibly relevant to TSLA investors

 

[M|S|M MYP]

Y'all been put on notice....

 

[Dreadnought]

I have seen from time to time in other media that Space x choice of fuel is extremely bad for the environment. Is this a money saving decision or is there a practical side. I would love to see a link to somewhere explaing this as a simple google search doesn’t provide informative results.

thanks in advance.

Nothing to add to what @Khamul said about the technicalities. However, and this is on-topic, FUDsters love to make a point of the giant amount of fuel burnt for lifting a tiny amount of cargo to feed the "Elon is a fraudster" narrative because, see, if he launches rockets, he can't be honest about this climate change hoax. So, maybe EVs aren't environmentally friendly, either and this is all just a big scam.

This kind of reasoning conveniently forgets to take into consideration that the few hundred tons of fuel times a couple of launches per year are negligible compared to 10+ Million tonnes of oil consumed each and every day (back of the envelope math based on 97 Million barrels per day in 2016). Possible carbon-neutral production of methane notwithstanding.

 

[dww12]

I have seen from time to time in other media that Space x choice of fuel is extremely bad for the environment. Is this a money saving decision or is there a practical side. I would love to see a link to somewhere explaing this as a simple google search doesn’t provide informative results.

thanks in advance.

Methalox is the only one you can make on Mars. It’s also cheap on Earth.

 

[Knightshade]

Y'all been put on notice....

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Ah, yes, Trumps personal bankers... also the folks who recently raised their Tesla stock target to $900 when it was already at $985, and predicted ~70k cars for Tesla in Q2. Seems legit.

 

[BornToFly]

Y'all been put on notice....

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If I buy ahead of the ER report, and then it goes down, can I hold "Douche" Bank accountable....

 

[Unpilot]

The SP is so flat in after hours.
Don't remember seeing it not move like this in a long time.

 

[vikings123]

The SP is so flat in after hours.
Don't remember seeing it not move like this in a long time.

S&P announcement coming soon with secondary offering at 1481. I can feel it

 

[Krugerrand]

Hand me 70 million or so in cash and I'm pretty sure I could get over being ashamed too.

Well, now we know the price at which you can be bought - should the need arise.

 

[Artful Dodger]

After-action Report: Mon, Aug 03, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "SP Oscillates Around Mid-BB as S&P Watch Continues"

Traded: $13,148,404,212.00 ($13.15 B)
Volume: 8,853,471
VWAP: $1,485.11

Closing SP / VWAP: 99.99%
(TSLA closed BELOW today's Avg SP)
Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM = $276.748B / $166.467B = 166.25%​

TSLA 1-mth Moving Avg Market Cap: $272.81B
TSLA 6-mth Moving Avg Market Cap: $162.79B
Nota Bene: Elon's 2nd tranche of CEO comp. plan vested July 24, 2020

'Short' Report:

FINRA Short/Total Volume = 37.5% (42nd Percentile rank Shorting)
FINRA Volume / Total NASDAQ Vol = 55.1% (55th Percentile rank FINRA Reporting)
FINRA Short Exempt Volume was 1.49% of Short Volume (53rd Percentile Rank)​

Comment: "MMs still extract their -2% drop after the Intraday High (bank on it)"

View all Lodger's After-Action Reports

Cheers!

 

[ABCTG]

Torque News - today:

Disagree because I unsubscribed from and won't watch Torque News. He just takes other peoples footage and rehashes it.

Better to watch the original content from the amazing Giga Berlin construction documenters

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV0ha4hBAhx_n4HAo6LaOBg

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvRenk988PP650XdsKHC1ig

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzj3J7eUJBtH3IhbR3j-J1Q

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRnkppDwjzu5HzmpvtQZK-w/videos

flybrandenburg - YouTube

 

[FrankSG]

And for now, he is right. He IS on vacation, after all. He DID just buy a 30* million dollar mansion, after all.

Elon's only taken 2 vacations in the last 20 years (when he got malaria and when a falcon 9 blew up), so Trevor taking vacations makes him more like Trump than Elon.

 

[soundart2]

Solo 401(k) And SEP IRA - Can You Have Both? | IRA Financial Group

IANACPA.

Thank you! I did so much research, but missed this. Was a "kingdom for a horse" situation. But great to finally see the question answered directly. Thank you so much for the info/link!

 

[tinm]

Elon's only taken 2 vacations in the last 20 years (when he got malaria and when a falcon 9 blew up), so Trevor taking vacations makes him more like Trump than Elon.

Lest we forget that lovely drive where he, wife, and 5 kids all piled into a Model S for a much-publicized cross-country driving “vacation” using Superchargers, but which evidently bombed resulting in them all quietly flying home from an airport near Mt. Rushmore...

 

[canoemore]

Lol.....this explains the SP move to the upside for NKLA...

https://twitter.com/meckimac/status/1289834877387280390?s=20

wtf did I just watch. "I till the earth, I touch the ground."