StealthP3D
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Of course it's not ready yet. The fallacy is that he claims Elon thinks it is. If he thought FSD was ready to drive without supervision, we would all have it already!
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Of course it's not ready yet. The fallacy is that he claims Elon thinks it is. If he thought FSD was ready to drive without supervision, we would all have it already!
jhm
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You could buy and endow a ranch for homeless cats.
TheTalkingMule
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Note that the Upper-BB is at 810.92 right now:
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5.0M shares traded since the Opening bell.
Cheers!
Back when this was proposed I told family members that knew senior officials at Foxconn to drop the stupid idea of making “LCDs” and go two routes: medical devices or batteries and motors platform for EVs. Who knew COVID was around the corner.Foxtron -> Foxconn , Foxconn is the company.
The same company that tore peoples houses down in Wisconsin and didnt build the factory they said they would
'They demolished my house for this?' Residents outraged by the Foxconn factory that fizzled
In Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, families were forced out for a huge hi-tech plant – but three years later, it still hasn’t been builtwww.theguardian.com
Only took 6 years to come to their senses.
They could never get unit cost low enough to justify the investment in WI. The ”skill” labor was not even close to their expectations. No kidding labor is way higher vs Asia. I would be interested to see their financial forecasts Or lack of. Definitely a dichotomy where boots on the ground was having a hard time seeing senior exec’s vision.
Topping off the charge at the Hotel Indigo parking lot? There was a thread a while back in the supercharger section talking about the lack of options somewhat in Alabama. I usually stay there (son attends the university) on visits. Also...the charger at Tupelo MS kind of sucks. They need to bump the speed on that one bad.
TheTalkingMule
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Today's chart is starting to look a lot like the 6 month chart.
We gone splode soon.
We gone splode soon.
Be careful of charging over at Tupelo, MS at night. The mall area is sketchy. I had to charge around 10-11pm one night, and some weird sketchy people came around and I was the only one in the tesla charger station. They asked for some $ to get some "gas" LOL, but super sketchy at night. Be safe!
jhm
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$TSLA: Knock, knock!
$810: Who's there?
$TSLA: It's TSLA.
$810: TSLA who...
$TSLA: Cut the crap! Mule's gonna 'splode if you don't let us through.
$810: Who's there?
$TSLA: It's TSLA.
$810: TSLA who...
$TSLA: Cut the crap! Mule's gonna 'splode if you don't let us through.
StealthP3D
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Calling it "fun" really under-values how significant this is. I do agree, it was enjoyable to watch but this is a great example of the kind of attention to detail that will drive the success of Tesla to extreme levels through this decade and probably well beyond. This is huge for Tesla's future and anyone who skipped over it might want to go back and watch it.
Contrast this to legacy makers who rely on advertising propaganda to drive sales and view safety as getting 5 stars while simultaneously lobbying the test agencies to keep the testing unrealistically simple so they don't have to do much of it. Tesla knows that that real world injury/survival data will ultimately win. They know when you are manufacturing cars by the millions it really pays to spend a little bit of money to reduce injury and death expenses by billions of dollars. Not only will this drive brand loyalty and new sales, but it will help with getting FSD accepted and is also why they will succeed wildly in the insurance business as long as they are able to avoid anti-trust concerns. Because insurance costs a lot less when you have the safest cars on the road by a country mile. And FSD is not as scary when the passenger cabin uses the best technology to protect the occupants.
Those of you familiar with my views on anti-trust may be surprised to see me raise potential anti-trust problems. However, this is an area that requires real strategy to avoid anti-trust attention. It is different from simply being such an efficient manufacturer that no one else can compete effectively because it crosses the boundaries between different industries. There is nothing anti-competitive about Tesla offering insurance but they will have to be careful how it is marketed and sold in order to avoid misguided anti-trust concerns. Of course any potential actions are likely many years down the road.
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Tmoz did not say anything about without supervision. He said ready to handle driving in your local city, with a near zero chance of intervention.
I've been using the beta now for a couple days, having taken 10-15 drives around the city with it. I'm honestly a bit perplexed at how badly it handles certain situations. It fails to act normally in what seems like a very uncomplicated situation. Then other times it performs really well in what seems like a complicated situation. In general, based on the visualizations I would say that it seems to understand the world quite well, but makes poor decisions based on that data. It's really quite amusing to have it sometimes start a right turn and then stomp on the brakes in the middle of the intersection with no other cars oncoming, but then also on a random unprotected left turn find an appropriate gap between oncoming cars and begin accelerating before the first car passes to perfectly and smoothly maneuver through the gap.
Despite my complaints I do see a clear path to success here though at least as far as assisted driving goes. I look forward to seeing improvements as updates are released.
Despite my complaints I do see a clear path to success here though at least as far as assisted driving goes. I look forward to seeing improvements as updates are released.
Forget Fords loan plans. THIS is why they're up!:
(Yes, it's real. The QR code takes you here, there's no date, but it says 2021)
If this plan is also available on their EVs and if you did your yearly update right before Tesla opens up SC network, you will have a not fun experience.
dhanson865
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The offset seems to be set +1 mph from the beginning?
FF a few minutes, I'm not on a computer where I can view youtube, but I distinctly remember him doing 30 in a 25, and 25 in a 20 through most of the first 30 minutes of the video. I was discussing it with someone else while watching it and paused it multiple times to show them the speed offset.
I was generalizing when I said he started at +5, forgive me for not creating dozens of timestamps showing all the times he was at +5.
Pulling it up on my phone he goes to +5 at 7:44 in the video and stays there for quite some time, I'm not going to waste my mobile data checking for further timestamps.
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TheTalkingMule
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Yes - I can confirm that it was at +5 several times throughout his ride.
Wait. Were you his wingman?
You need to drive like Grandma to get FSD beta, and 1st thing you do is drive +5 above speed limit ?
If we take the whole humanity evolution arc from cell .. monkey to human ... where is FSD on a similar arc? Can walk on two feet? discovered fire ? learnt to scribble? learnt to talk?
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
Well, it's not TEN over the limit.You need to drive like Grandma to get FSD beta, and 1st thing you do is drive +5 above speed limit ?
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