Huskyf
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No I think is Fred on electrek blog that make an article with a wrong titleThe story is on the front page of my Yahoo home page.
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No I think is Fred on electrek blog that make an article with a wrong titleThe story is on the front page of my Yahoo home page.
Hmm, two sources. One says late Feb. Was the other source not able to corroborate this basic fact? Or did this other source disagree offering a different date? Late Feb is not that far back in time for memory to be this faulty.Here's a line from the Reuters article claiming that plans have been scrapped for a Model 2.
"Two sources said they learned of Tesla's decision to scrap the Model 2 in a meeting attended by scores of employees, with one of them saying the gathering happened in late February."
Late February? Scores of employees? It would be amazing that such a decision would not have been leaked before today. In any event, plans could have changed since then.
Did Reuters only wrote a title? There's a long article below that title, and we don't know what part is the lie.Rush to judgement? Reuters stated as fact that the 25k is cancelled. That is not true. This caused a $50B swing in market cap. You can take your time getting there, but Reuters published false information again.
minute by minute market cap is irrelevant to me. completely, fully irrelevant. There is no one at Tesla confirming 25k is or isn’t cancelled. That’s one of the big pieces of information-- but not the only one -- I want to see before deciding what to make of this. and yeah, I’m in no rush.Rush to judgement? Reuters stated as fact that the 25k is cancelled. That is not true. This caused a $50B swing in market cap. You can take your time getting there, but Reuters published false information again.
A vehicle specially optimized for robotaxi use case will have significantly different design objectives, even for stuff that’s not obvious like aero, suspension, and thermal management. Trying to serve both use cases with one design yields a vehicle configuration that’s not optimal for either, much like how attempts by how other automakers to incorporate multiple powertrain designs into the same vehicle and production lines has been a failure.
I’m sure Tesla has designed the next-gen vehicle to be able to be adapted decently to be used as a taxi, but it will be inferior to the dedicated robotaxi design.
This is being talked about elsewhere, but I think more wanted the RT to be a dedicated design like some other concepts with seats that face backwards, easy to open doors or automatically closing doors, or just a larger platform for more passengers.How so? I've always envisioned the Robotaxi as just the upcoming Tesla compact Gen3 without a steering wheel or pedals. Everything else about the car would be identical to the consumer variant.
What do you think would be different about a dedicated robotaxi design that would not allow it to share a platform with a consumer version?
My take: Tesla is likely balancing supply and demand via the pricing. As long as they don’t make a lot, they can take higher prices.I don't see why many would buy the Model 3 even with the refresh in the US when it costs more than the Y after the tax rebate. Am I missing something? We have been lambasting Tesla for the super slow ramp of the refreshed 3 but are a significant number of people going to buy it anyway?
I see the refreshed 3 at $38,990 and an inventory Y at $34,340 after the tax credit.
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What are the names of the 3 sources?Tesla badly needs a PR department.
Reuters had 3 sources, all indicating the Model 2 plans were scrapped.
The contacted Tesla for confirmation.
Tesla didn’t respond, Reuters ran the article.
Elon responds after the fact with a vague “Lies” post on X.
If Tesla had responded before the article ran this would have been a minor, or non issue.
X is currently THE place to get the truth. It's not perfect but it's better than anything else right now. I also often see things on X before I see them anywhere else, including this thread.I thought X was supposed to be THE place to get the "truth"? How can Elon allow this to go on, but bitch and whine about all the other type of "news"?
Yes, this is accurate... Reg FD requires fair disclosure. There is no law stating that they (Elon) can't disclose anything between now and earnings so long as it is done in the public domain (in a prior disclosure, it was determined that x/twitter qualifies as disclosing in the public domain).What law, specifically, do you think it would violate?
Because to my knowledge there isn't one preventing a public company from disclosing material info as long as it's disclosed publicly- even if it's between end of quarter and earnings announcement.
There might be company rules about what you can say when- many companies have them (though they vary in details)- but I'm not aware of any law requiring them other than prior to IPO- and the company policies are usually in place so an employee doesn't accidentally disclose non public material info to a select group. Disclosing it to everyone means it's public- which is legal.
What are the names of the 3 sources?
Anything to do with this? One can only wonder...I thought X was supposed to be THE place to get the "truth"? How can Elon allow this to go on, but bitch and whine about all the other type of "news"?
@FreqFlyer Specifically what do you mean by "this?"Do you believe this? If I were to go to my wife's High School classes and tell them what you wrote since I am sure that the generation you are talking too. Will they embrace this or laugh me out of the room?