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Yeah, this thread went off track fast! LOLWe’re talking about emergency road use. This is a spare tire thread.
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Yeah, this thread went off track fast! LOLWe’re talking about emergency road use. This is a spare tire thread.
Then Tesla needs to provide 2 versions of FSD: 1 to run with cars having spare tires, 1 to run with cars having no spare tires.Perhaps Elon could be convinced to add a spare tire if the Tesla engineers could convince him it was needed for the windshield washing system like VW used to do in the 60's?
The pot calling the kettle black. But it's the pot that's off topic, not the kettle.Yeah, this thread went off track fast! LOL
No, actually that’s cars with no spare Up to 2017. Regardless this entire thread is a train wreck at this point. Most cars from Most OEM’s won’t have a spare. Complain and move on or get one if you feel the need.Cars having no spare tires since 2017:
That includes most popular and top of the line car models.
To do a plug?Yes. With or without foam, the shop takes the tire off the wheel to do the repair.
Any legitimate tire shop will completely remove the tire from the wheel, cut out a section of foam (looks like window trim insulation foam), rough up the inner surface of the tire around the hole, apply cement, and insert a mushroom shaped patch/plug, pushing it through the hole from the inside out. Tech will use a small roller to press the "mushroom" part to assure total contact, then re-cement the foam that was removed, remount the tire, inflate, and balance.To do a plug?
That's what I'm talking about. A plug is a minute or two. Taking the wheel off, demounting the tire takes a LOT more time.
Tire is removed for a patch. @stopcrazypp was talking about a patch. I did not know tire shops did plugs, that is usually done by DIY in a pinch. No need to remove tire for a plug.To do a plug?
That's what I'm talking about. A plug is a minute or two. Taking the wheel off, demounting the tire takes a LOT more time.
Regardless this entire thread is a train wreck at this point.
I was talking about a patch (or a combo patch/plug). In context, you were talking about "reputable" shops. I know of no reputable shop that does plugs from the outside.To do a plug?
That's what I'm talking about. A plug is a minute or two. Taking the wheel off, demounting the tire takes a LOT more time.
Not on list, last car of mine was a 2017 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid. It didn't have a spare.Cars having no spare tires since 2017:
That includes most popular and top of the line car models.
Do spare engines count?Trains don't have spares, either
Plugs faded away when the radial tire was introduced. Because radial tires flex the plug lets air slowly weep. It will get you by for a couple 1,000 miles, but not a permanent fix.I was talking about a patch (or a combo patch/plug). In context, you were talking about "reputable" shops. I know of no reputable shop that does plugs from the outside.
Here's the repair guide for a tire without the foam:
https://www.rematiptop.com/assets/t...Nail-Hole-Repair-Procedures-Wall-Chart-v9.pdf
You will notice it is exactly the same other than cutting out the foam.
Here's a one piece combo patch/plug:
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Here's a patch (that typically is applied after plugging a stem into the hole, which is why it's call a "two piece" procedure):
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As I already said, the foam is irrelevant to a standard plug (which users apply themselves), given it is applied from the outside and doesn't rely on sticking on the inside surface of the wheel.
To make it clear, people talking about shops (which does patches as above) refusing to fix are because when such tires first came out, they were unaware it was as simple as cutting out the foam. Now the official repair guides make it clear it really is that easy.
In case you doubt these instructions, even Continental, the manufacturer, links to Rema's tire repair guide for repairing their Contisilent tires:
Tire Repair
Michelin does not appear to have public repair guides on the internet, but they say: "Repairs of all tires must be of the combined-plug-and-inside-patch type." Practically all manufacturers claim the same, which is why shops will not do plugs alone.
Does Your Car Tire Need Repair? | Michelin
Not trying to sound combative. I have a 21 gal compressor and full complement of tools, etc. I fill up lawnmower, truck, etc. Wont rely on battery when I know corded will just work whenever and I will only use in emergency. So far, I have never filled Tesla tires. Actually let a bit of air out of them to soften rideNo I don't.
Thanks to their versatility, I use mine often.
Everything has "finite life". The last time I needed a corded compressor for a flat, it almost immediately blew the fuse, leaving me stranded.
Strong words from a guy driving a battery-operated car.
Will you buy one? I think there are a couple to choose from.I live in a rural area in Nevada. Some of the places I go have NO cell service, and are more likely to be on a rough dirt road, meaning higher flat probability.
My use case pretty much requires having a spare, at least for some trips.
Check out this thread. Impossible to keep up with. Schizophrenic at best. It is the most active thread and the most unfocused thread in all of TMC history. If one can't handle talking about tire repair on a spare tire thread, don't go here:Yeah, this thread went off track fast! LOL
Probably. I got one when I had a Chevy Volt, but I only used it on long trips. Took up a lot of space relative to the car size.Will you buy one? I think there are a couple to choose from.
That would be Star Alliance, a corporate union of many "independent" airlinersYou really think labor unions have entered negotiations to make airline seats smaller?