bollar
Disgruntled Member
The way the legislation reads, you'll only be eligible if you purchase from a dealer.
. The dealer is required to give you the form and maintain the documentation.
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The way the legislation reads, you'll only be eligible if you purchase from a dealer.
. The dealer is required to give you the form and maintain the documentation.I don't know if that's a requirement to get the incentive. The relevant section of the law says:
| Sec. 386.160. COMMISSION [COMPTROLLER] TO ACCOUNT FOR MOTOR | |
| VEHICLE PURCHASE OR LEASE INCENTIVES. (a) The commission | |
| | [comptroller] by rule shall develop a method to administer and |
| account for the motor vehicle purchase or lease incentives | |
| authorized by this subchapter and to pay incentive money to the | |
| purchaser or lessee of a new motor vehicle, on application of the | |
| purchaser or lessee as provided by this subchapter. | |
| (b) The commission [comptroller] shall develop and publish | |
| forms and instructions for the purchaser or lessee of a new motor | |
| vehicle to use in applying to the commission [comptroller] for an | |
| incentive payment under this subchapter. The commission | |
| [comptroller] shall make the forms available to new motor vehicle | |
| dealers and leasing agents. Dealers and leasing agents shall make | |
| | the forms available to their prospective purchasers or lessees. I think it may depend on how the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality writes the rules. The purchaser makes the application and the incentive gets paid to the purchaser. It sounds like the dealer is mentioned to facilitate that process but it's unclear if the dealer is mandatory. The forms should be publicly available, not just distributed to auto dealers. The TCEQ rule-making will likely be the next battleground between Tesla and the Texas auto dealers, assuming someone at Tesla is monitoring this. |
bollar
Disgruntled Member
Look at #173 and the messages right after it. He's only filing in Harris County for now.
The Fury
Member
It's part of an emissions reduction program:
Bill Text: TX SB1727 | 2013-2014 | 83rd Legislature | Enrolled | LegiScan
Bill Text: TX SB1727 | 2013-2014 | 83rd Legislature | Enrolled | LegiScan
Just an FYI if anyone gives you that nonsense, ALL 50 states have reciprocity agreements so the temp tags are valid in all 50 states. Now California has a few different types... a Dealer paper temp in the front or rear window (dumb) ... a Red square in the rear window (used IN Cali only and would birtually never be used on a new car) and a Blue paper tag in the front window.
1 and 2 are good for at least 30 days. 3 is good ONLY TO DRIVE TO A SPECIFIC ADDRESS OUTSIDE THE STATE,
But all 3 are VALID in all 50 states.
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Just an FYI if anyone gives you that nonsense, ALL 50 states have reciprocity agreements so the temp tags are valid in all 50 states. Now California has a few different types... a Dealer paper temp in the front or rear window (dumb) ... a Red square in the rear window (used IN Cali only and would birtually never be used on a new car) and a Blue paper tag in the front window.
1 and 2 are good for at least 30 days. 3 is good ONLY TO DRIVE TO A SPECIFIC ADDRESS OUTSIDE THE STATE,
But all 3 are VALID in all 50 states.
bollar
Disgruntled Member
Yes it applies to EVs:
| (c)A new light-duty motor vehicle powered by electric drive | |
| is eligible for a $2,500 incentive if the vehicle: | |
| (1) has four wheels; | |
| (2)was manufactured for use primarily on public | |
| streets, roads, and highways; | |
| (3)has not been modified from the original | |
| manufacturer's specifications; | |
| (4)is rated at not more than 8,500 pounds unloaded | |
| vehicle weight; | |
| (5)has a maximum speed capability of at least 55 miles | |
| per hour; | |
| (6)is propelled to a significant extent by an | |
| electric motor that draws electricity from a battery that: | |
| (A)has a capacity of not less than four kilowatt | |
| hours; and | |
| (B)is capable of being recharged from an | |
| external source of electricity; and | |
| (7)was acquired on or after September 1, 2013, or a | |
| later date as established by the commission, by the person applying | |
| for the incentive under this subsection and for use or lease by that | |
| person and not for resale. | |
| (d)The incentive under Subsection (c) is limited to 2,000 | |
| vehicles for the state fiscal biennium beginning September 1, 2013. |
OKAY, so it's a $7,500 Federal tax credit (assuming you owe that much), plus $2500 TX Credit (but since there are no State income taxes in Texas, how is this factored, and where do we get the forms)?
So $10K credit in Texas?? Why don't the Tesla folks at the store in Austin know this?
Can someone please clarify for us Texas folks
bollar
Disgruntled Member
Presumably we're waiting on the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality to release the paperwork. The Texas credit is issued in the form of a rebate / incentive, not a credit, so you presumably don't have to have Texas taxes to get the credit. IMO, the legislation reads like Dealers are responsible for administering the paperwork -- I hope that's not the case.OKAY, so it's a $7,500 Federal tax credit (assuming you owe that much), plus $2500 TX Credit (but since there are no State income taxes in Texas, how is this factored, and where do we get the forms)?
So $10K credit in Texas?? Why don't the Tesla folks at the store in Austin know this?
Can someone please clarify for us Texas folks
I don't know why Tesla in Austin doesn't know. I told them, and Tesla legal in CA about it and sent them copies of the legislation.
TCEQ--one of the worst (bureaucratic) State agencies there is--it's like putting IRS in charge. We'll never get a straight or real answer.
And yes, if 'dealers' are in charge of paperwork then we'll NEVER see a rebate, so worthless.
Tesla needs to get on this ASAP.
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