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The New RAV4 EV

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by EVNow, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    I kind of recall reading Iron Man in 1962. Of course, that was a long time ago so I could be wrong, but when I was growing up I lived in many different cities and the one that I recall when I started to read Marvel was the one I was in during 1962-1963.
     
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    In the video that vfx posted in post 692, the guy says that the Rav4EV has greater range than any other EV on the market. FAIL! He also says that it has greater utility. That would depend on whether the video was made before or after the Model S began being delivered. Toyota being Toyota, and with the Tesla drive train, I'm sure the Rav4EV will be a great car. But he had to know that the Roadster has more than double the range.
     
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    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    Large companies only consider other large companies competition. The rest they ignore.
     
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    (Emphasis mine.)

    In other words, they lie. Which is too bad, really, because Toyota does not need to lie. I'm sure the Rav4EV will be a fine car. He could have said Greatest range in its price class, and Only EV SUV, etc.
     
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    Just got notice that the Rav4 EV I ordered some time ago will delivered around the 25th. Looking forward to reporting on it when it arrives.
    Financing options:
    1. Lease $599 per month 36 month
    2. 1.9% financing
     
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    congrats
    curious to hear your first driving-experiences
     
  9. JRP3

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    Sweet. Interested in your real world range.
     
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    I just found out today that the maintenance on these is every 5k miles or every 6 months. Battery warranty is 100k miles or 96 months, bumper to bumper warranty 3 years or 36k miles. Power train warranty is 5 years or 60k miles. All of the above is whichever comes first. I can handle everything except the maintenance twice to three times a year, otherwise I would be taking delivery Sept. 24th.
     
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    Do they describe what the maintenance is, is it required, and is there a charge for it?
     
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    qwk Model S P2681

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    No, no and no. They did say that the vehicle has to be taken in to one of the 53 California dealers to be serviced.I explicitly asked about whether the car will be taken to Tesla in case of power train/battery work and got an "absolutely not, each of the 53 dealerships has someone qualified to work on the entire vehicle".
     
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    Well that doesn't seem so bad then, they just want to keep tabs on their new technology in real world use, at no extra cost to the owner.
     
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    I didn't realize you were in the market. Congrats, I can tell you from my couple of hours of driving it that I think you'll really enjoy the versatility and fun. Maybe not quite Model S speed, but it's still darn brisk and fun.
     
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    qwk Model S P2681

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    Sorry, I typed that wrong(on slow phone connection). The maintenance is required, cost is up to the dealer(like leaf). Apparently there is no remote diagnostics like the model S, or they just want you to visit the dealer. The nice thing about the Rav 4 ev is you can just go buy one and get it this year. I found several available just calling around. Unfortunately there are no options and only 3 colors.
     
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    That is annoying then if you have to pay for "service" every 5K, when that "service" is probably just data gathering for them. Not exactly promoting the low maintenance angle for EV's. I wonder what happens if you refuse to bring it in, do they try to void your warranty, is that even legal?
     
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    Don't all warranties require that you have the required maintenance done? Even if it's only checking the health of the system, they could say that's required if you want them to fix breakdowns for free.
     
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    I don't think you are required to have the maintenance done at the dealer, nor would I think that requirement legal since it would seem monopolistic. You are allowed to change your own oil, filter, belts, etc. and still be covered.
     
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    #740 JRP3, Sep 15, 2012
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    Right, but my point is I don't believe you need to have any service done by a dealer to still be covered by a warranty. I don't think you even have to prove you changed your oil to still be covered, as long as there is oil in the car.
    Google time: Auto Warranties, Routine Maintenance, and Repairs: Is Using the Dealer a Must?
    So this isn't even a repair, but a "check up", so I'm pretty sure they could not void your warranty if you skipped it. Don't know for sure though, but I'd press the point with the dealer.

    Though this seems contradictory:
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    I guess if they can blame a problem on a lack of service they can void your warranty, so failure to get a checkup might be used against you.
    http://artsautomotive.com/publications/2-explanatory/169-the-warranty-myth

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    Presumably they have to tell you exactly what service or checks are required so you could potentially have them done elsewhere or do them yourself, which is probably unlikely with an EV at this time.
     

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