Track Mode on PXXXDL Model S or X?

[jaed]

Now that the model 3 ludicrous cars are getting the track mode has anyone heard if it will be coming to the model S?
It would be a bummer for people who paid almost 2x's as much for a P100D to be left out in the cold.

Anyone hear anything?

 

[outie]

There has been no indication that it will go to S/X.

 

[conman]

But given it's just a software mode, there's nothing stopping them from making them for all P models...

 

[brianman]

But given it's just a software mode, there's nothing stopping them from making them for all P models...

You really should read the Motor Trend review.

"It's just a software mode. Why doesn't the iPhone feature ___ work on my Xbox?"

 

[Russell]

But given it's just a software mode, there's nothing stopping them from making them for all P models...

Motors and cooling systems are not the same.

 

[conman]

You really should read the Motor Trend review.

"It's just a software mode. Why doesn't the iPhone feature ___ work on my Xbox?"

I did read the article. What I mean is they need to create custom software for each of them. I'm not implying they port the model 3 changes to the models S and X. It's still just software.

Motors and cooling systems are not the same.

That seems rather obvious... but that doesn't change the fact that a track mode could be made for the others as well. The difference would be the S could only run about 3 laps before overheating (depending on track length). That still doesn't preclude a track mode that could be used for short periods.

 

[jaed]

The other thing is Elon claims the Model S is still the top of the line flagship over the 3 then gives the model 3 performance upgrades a S does not have. Just does not make sense. For a 160k car vs 85k. It doesn’t help sell the higher margin car for them. Or maybe I am just bitter having a P100DL and not having track mode

 

[Brando]

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perhaps Tesla would "update" these Model S GTs ??

 

[MP3Mike]

But given it's just a software mode, there's nothing stopping them from making them for all P models...

It isn't just software though, it is software on the Tesla VDC device. From what I recall the S&X come with a Bosch VDC device.

 

[conman]

I wouldn't write off the possibility. Elon is always adamant that the S is the top performance model still.
Elon Musk on Twitter

 

[MP3Mike]

I wouldn't write off the possibility. Elon is always adamant that the S is the top performance model still.
Elon Musk on Twitter

Absolutely. Now that they have track mode on their own VDC system in the wild I would expect that they have someone working on fitting it into the S&X. (I assume it will be cheaper than licensing the current Bosch one they are using as well as adding more in-house control.) It would just be part of their continuous improvement effort, and I am sure will cause a big ruckus when people find out that a P100D built on day x doesn't have track mode while one built on day x+1 does have it.

 

[sandpiper]

I wouldn't write off the possibility. Elon is always adamant that the S is the top performance model still.
Elon Musk on Twitter

I don't see it. The present design (cooling) of the S doesn't allow it to be done in such a way as top make it a useful track vehicle. I see it with the next version.

 

[conman]

I don't see it. The present design (cooling) of the S doesn't allow it to be done in such a way as top make it a useful track vehicle. I see it with the next version.

I agree it won't be a useful track vehicle with its overheating issues, but that again doesn't preclude a mode that allows you to drive it track style for short periods.

 

[sandpiper]

I agree it won't be a useful track vehicle with its overheating issues, but that again doesn't preclude a mode that allows you to drive it track style for short periods.

True. But if you have limited human resources to throw at these problems, you wouldn't spend them on the development of a semi-functional mode on a design that's reaching end-of-life.

 

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[conman]

True. But if you have limited human resources to throw at these problems, you wouldn't spend them on the development of a semi-functional mode on a design that's reaching end-of-life.

It's my perception that Tesla is more likely to work on fun ideas than problems that still need solving.

 

[Christopher1]

I don't think they can control the bosch unit that S and X use, with the same control they have on their own system in model 3.
Wait for HW change

 

[The Duke]

The present design (cooling) of the S doesn't allow it to be done in such a way as top make it a useful track vehicle.

Two laps to set a record time. The S can do that.
Autocross does not seem to overheat the S.
Does the S use the battery as a heat sink for the motor now? Can software do that in the S? Track mode may help more than we think.

 

[skitown]

It's my perception that Tesla is more likely to work on fun ideas than problems that still need solving.

Other than that pesky mission statement of theirs......

 

[conman]

Other than that pesky mission statement of theirs......

Indeed and one must know when one quotes one who is being sarcastic. I hate when it doesn't come across in text.