Funny. You haven't seen bikes with studded snow tires?Good idea .. add a couple extra wheels for stability, maybe a canopy for bad weather. We could call it .. um .. a "car"
Here's an example:
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Funny. You haven't seen bikes with studded snow tires?Good idea .. add a couple extra wheels for stability, maybe a canopy for bad weather. We could call it .. um .. a "car"
as someone with grandfathered free supercharging I can't address the cost of charging, where supercharging got very expensive for me is when my wife joins me on a trip and I stop for a charge she hits the stores and buys all sorts of stuff. her shopping is far more costly than filling a car with fuel every few hours.I thought Tesla said they wouldn’t make the superchargers a profit center? After paying $14.56 for driving 140 miles from home charger to Supercharger and topping off, I realized it would have been cheaper to drive my pickup. At the current cost of fuel which is $2.25 per gallon here this equates to an ICE getting 21.5mpg. Not too impressive. A regular car comparable to a Model 3 would easily get 30mpg, probably more like 35-40mpg.
Are the supercharger rates here in Montana just excessively high, or is that the normal across the nation.
Makes me really miss free supercharging....
In some states they can't charge you by the amount of energy you used...
Which, in Tesla’s case, is significantly less expensive than paying by the kWh.
In Norway, they are actually trying to charge people $0.09/KWh at certain times to entice people to charge at off peak hours. This will probably come to the US if it is successful.
I can say that Tesla is not trying to make money from the Supercharger Network. In Norway, they are actually trying to charge people $0.09/KWh at certain times to entice people to charge at off peak hours. This will probably come to the US if it is successful.
Tesla is already implementing time of use rates at some locations here in the US. My local supercharger is one of those locations, at $0.18 off peak and somewhere in the $0.30s peak. I’ve seen similar in California and a few other states.
Lately, the average national price seems to be around $0.28/kWh (anecdotal observation from my own experiences).
Was just perusing my charges. Discovered recently that every S/C session from Day 1 was available, even the original freebies.
A recent session at Lindale...
Power Tier 1 16 min @ $0.11/min $1.76
Power Tier 2 15 min @ $0.22/min $3.30
Tax included
$0.39
So what is the difference in the Tiers? (Yes, I know, one is twice the price of the other...). When does Tier 2 kick in?
I'm pretty sure the crossover point is 60 kW.
Tesla automagically puts the charges in their correct charging speed buckets/ Scheming Cheap Old Man Mode enabled
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SSonnentag said: ↑
I'm pretty sure the crossover point is 60 kW.
Loudmusic concurs.
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I've noticed I get a separate bill each time I plug in.
Recently I unplugged and moved to another spout after a few minutes, as it was really s l o o o w. Got a bill for $0.90, then a bill for the rest of the charge...
Ergo, looks like I could consume <60KW, unplug, then
plug in and restart the clock at the lower rate? Might have to move to another spout. Hmmm...
<rubs hands together>
Time for some testing and firkytootling!
-- After all this white crap goes away.
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It's kW not kWh. That's speed of charge, not capacity. The charge speed is based on the state of charge of the car's battery. If charging by the minute, you have to sit longer as the charge rate slows down. This is why they reduce the price per minute when the charge rate falls below 60kW.
Note to self: No posting after 3 Margaritas and a shooter.