Tesla can't sell cars in all states yet. Do you think regulatory approval for self driving cars will happen any time soon? This will create a backlash for selling something they have no real timeline to actually produce or allow the driver to use legally. What a mess!
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Unveiling on Oct 17th
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Theoretically it can handle anything. Elon wants people to let their cars go off and be rented by people.
It's clearly the goal with this release.
I'm worried about intersections though. The side forward cameras can see 60m, so if there's a car driving at 35mph on a regular road that you're turning on to, you only see it when its 60m away. 4 seconds before it hits you. I guess it could start the merge and then if it sees a car could accelerate hugely to get up to speed.
We also have some higher speed roads with T intersections... so I'd think if the car could safely request a driver to take over at those points it would be great, but that wouldn't be level 5 autonomy.
If it is Level 5, the option of being in the Tesla Rental fleet might come with the incentive of a free $8k self-drive upgrade.
Canuck
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Mixing apples and oranges. The legal issues have no relation at all.
It's called progress. There's no mess. Without pushing the boundaries, you get nowhere.
Tam
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How:
1) Pricing! If you pay $8,000 when you ordered Autopilot + Self-driving option.
2) Activation. You don't know until the software allows an option for Supercharger automatic connection. By the way, there's no report of any Automatic Connection Supercharger as of today, so it's still in future.
What:
You stop and get out of the car at the front door of a hotel where there's a Supercharger station that is a walking distance away in the back. You then choose an option on your phone for your car to autonomously go to a nearest Supercharger and get in line with the other 11 waiting cars in front, then it will get into an available bay and auto-connect itself to charge then get back to an available parking space in front.
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CarlitoDoc
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So basically we got FOCC'd (Fancy Overpriced Cruise Control)? 
I love your forward looking, positive attitude around here. Always glass half full, eh?So basically we got FOCC'd (Fancy Overpriced Cruise Control)?
So basically we got FOCC'd (Fancy Overpriced Cruise Control)?
But, you can play Crysis on the TitanX video card in your car.
On that joke I really wonder if they upgraded the Infotainment computer from a Tegra 3 since they put such a monster in for the Autopilot computer.
Tam
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Driverless Supercharging will be incrementally released.
First, you will bypass traffic laws by only performing the function in a private property.
When you do it, you'll have to supervise the system to make sure it works flawlessly.
Once, Tesla has gotten enough validated trials, you don't need to supervise the autonomous Supercharging in a private property... and so on...
So, this function should be envisioned pretty soon like 2018 or earlier!
Tam
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I don't think it's a video. Most likely it's a telephone conference call to the press. No slides, no visual aids needed.
The hold up was most likely due to the decision of an exact date of when to start installing the new hardware.
Tam
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More details of the press conference call:
http://jalopnik.com/every-tesla-will-now-come-with-fully-autonomous-hardwar-1787999213
SAE Level 5 fully-autonomous capability by the end of 2017 (to drive driverlessly cross country from Los Angeles to New York.)
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Tesla would take responsibility for any incident involving a failure of Tesla’s systems, but the company would not be blindly taking responsibility for all incidents like other companies including Volvo, Mercedes and Google have offered.
“It’s up to your insurance,” Musk said."
"The long-term goal for the new hardware is a ten-fold improvement in safety, but on launch it should be twice as safe as the human alternative. It was also made clear that Tesla would not set a firm release date until it collects enough data. The company will be collecting information from the new hardware in its cars going forward in “shadow mode,” and will still need government approval before anybody goes cross-country completely autonomous."
http://jalopnik.com/every-tesla-will-now-come-with-fully-autonomous-hardwar-1787999213
SAE Level 5 fully-autonomous capability by the end of 2017 (to drive driverlessly cross country from Los Angeles to New York.)
"
Tesla would take responsibility for any incident involving a failure of Tesla’s systems, but the company would not be blindly taking responsibility for all incidents like other companies including Volvo, Mercedes and Google have offered.
“It’s up to your insurance,” Musk said."
"The long-term goal for the new hardware is a ten-fold improvement in safety, but on launch it should be twice as safe as the human alternative. It was also made clear that Tesla would not set a firm release date until it collects enough data. The company will be collecting information from the new hardware in its cars going forward in “shadow mode,” and will still need government approval before anybody goes cross-country completely autonomous."
Tam
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Colby Boles
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I totally agree. If you spend any time with AP1.0 it becomes abundantly clear that it is sensor limited. Almost every time I abort AP it is because it clearly isn't aware of something that I can see.
my 60d due for delivery in December says DA02 in the source code, does that mean they will still manufacture the old AP1 for existing orders or with that be changed... I cant imagine they would want their assembly line having to deal with two different installations, Im assuming they will have to change our AP1 to AP2 since Elon said they are already installing AP2 as of today?
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