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Used Tesla in California
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HankLloydRight
No Roads
Ok just curious.. why are white sticker cars exempted from getting new red stickers?
Cars can get HOV stickers only once?
Cars can get HOV stickers only once?
I’m Not sure about the logic behind it, but here is what I read and the actual rules from DMV.
Can we renew our HOV sticker?
Clean Air Vehicle Decals - High Occupancy Vehicle Lane Usage
Apparently there are some exceptions
Note: White CAV decals are valid only until January 1, 2019. New white CAV decals are no longer issued. Vehicle owners issued white decals on or after January 1, 2017, who are eligible for the red decal, were mailed, to their address on file, a pre-filled CAV decal application form with instructions and a return envelope.
I bought my 2013 MS just after the Tesla ended the $1,500 add-on for shipping and prepping the vehicle. So instead, I flew to KC and took possession. The flight cost about $400 and the trip took two days back to Houston. But the ride? Oh my oh my... I loved the drive home!
thecloud
As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
And for those with ineligible white stickers, you get a friendly warning letter like this one:
HankLloydRight
No Roads
I'm still curious as to why they'll won't renew some of the stickers. What's the criteria other than the issue date? I'm not in CA and don't have a dog in this race, I'm just curious. Seems like random discrimination to me. The cars haven't changed, they're still no/low emissions cars and a lot of people are getting screwed for no particular reason? Is that about right?
idealsol
Member
It seems they simply decided on an arbitrary date. We bought our car in Dec 2016. Didn’t get around to applying for white stickers until Jan 2107
Had we applied when we bought our car in 2016 we’d be ineligible for the lovely red stickers.
BTW - there are now 4 red stickers to deface your car now instead of the previous 3
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Lifeinabox
Member
After catching up on this thread this morning, I hopped into my S and drove to work using the HOV lane. Got stuck behind some ugly Volvo SUV with brand new looking red HOV stickers with a single occupant. I'm sure it gets an astounding 20 miles per charge before the ICE kicks in. 
Eevee
Member
I have a question about that, actually. I just bought a pre-owned and it has the white stickers on it. Since I don't live in California and am nearly always actually carpooling when I'm in California, I don't need the stickers. Is there a safe way to remove them?
There are youtube videos on how to remove them... it's a pain in the ass
idealsol
Member
I used a removable film that I attached stickers to. Worked well
So in your case as other post recommended, take a look at YouTube
I would guess a good detailer would be able to remove it.?
Would anyone venture speculation whether the new relationship with Manheim and Adesa will change Tesla’s used car program? If so, how?
Eevee
Member
Each state has their own rules about auto sales tax. For me, buying the car in CA and registering it in NV where I live, I paid way more in CA taxes than I would have in NV, but I don't have to pay NV taxes on top. Additionally, I may be able to deduct the sales tax from my federal income taxes (NV doesn't have state income taxes so that's not an option). Even after all was said and done, this car after taxes was a better value IMO than any of my local options ATM so I went ahead and paid the tax. Every situation is different though.
I highly suggest anyone considering buying pre-owned use EV-CPO.com - Tesla New, Used, and CPO Inventory Listings and use the advanced options search to limit the results only to particular states - that way you can search by taxes rather than simply a radius from where you are located. The inventory search on the Tesla website is really bad.
Good question!
I have No idea how the system will work, so this is Just my speculation . IMO - it will improve the quality of vehicles we see, but may reduce the quantity. If Manheim and Adesa are sorting thru inventory and refurbishing or sorting out bad vehicles (selling those through wholesalers) and sending the good ones back to sell through Tesla, we should see better quality cars available. With this extra layer of QC and support, my guess is prices will adjust up as well.
Ultimately, the market will bear the prices, but I imagine Tesla has some sort of minimum or formula for what they buy back cars at and what the minimum selling price is. If you add a layer of costs (refurb or 3rd party help) it will likely increase cost.
It would be interesting to track trade in values from TMC members to see what they are trading in at (at a certain date) and what those Vehicles are then sold at (starting price and what low it has hit). I’d be interested to know If the selling price ever drops below what they offered on the trade in.
Question: what is a bigger influence on the prices of “CPO/used” teslas?
supply / demand (more inventory /less willing buyers due to a bad sales process)
Or lower costs (lower trade in values / less refurbish costs)
If costs play in, then this new process will add costs , unless Tesla starts offering less and less on trade ins.
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