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V11 is going to be HUGE!
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Why? Are you saying that people should only sell something that has a predictable delivery schedule? Well, things like that are pretty dull usually, as they are just minor iterations of a well-trodden path. When someone sells something genuinely new, there is a balance between the attraction of the novelty value (in the true sense of the word "novelty") and the inherent uncertainty about what you are getting. Will it work? Will it ship on time? Will it be worth what I paid for it?
FSD is clearly at the extreme novelty end of this scale .. no-one has ever tried it before. And that means its risky .. of course it is. Sure, Elon said X or then said Y. So what? That's called "marketing" (aka creative lying). I for one was well aware of the rissk involved when I bought FSD, and set my expectations accordingly .. taking all that Elon said with the appropriate amount of skepticism. If you didn't, well, perhaps you learned something that will be useful to you going forward.
This text from october 2016 tells, that the bottleneck is the local regulatory approval
Well, that would be false since it is well document that air travel is far safer per million miles than even a Tesla car. Also, autonomous air travel is easier to figure out...
Safety is due in large part to the ratio of pilots to passengers. Look at the list of careers ordered by fatalities. Pilots are #3, behind fishing and logging and just ahead of roofers.Drivers are #6 on the list. (Sorry for off-topicness. I thought it was interesting, is all.)
Tarpan
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On flying cars....Neil deGrasse Tyson did a great bit on flying cars with Joe Rogan while back.
Humans, on the whole, make a lot of bad driving decisions. I would hate to see what that looks like when things start falling from the sky due to bad decisions. Fully autonomous maybe.
Humans, on the whole, make a lot of bad driving decisions. I would hate to see what that looks like when things start falling from the sky due to bad decisions. Fully autonomous maybe.
It's more complex than that (lies, damn lies, and statistics). The fatality numbers you quote include all flights, including private jets etc. For commercial day-to-day flights the numbers are much lower, as a result of tighter safety, maintenance and better training.
Besides, it doest matter why planes are safer. According to the a Dutch study (quoted here), "for every 1 billion passenger miles traveled by car, 7.2 people die; by plane, it's 0.07 people." That's a ratio of about 100:1 in favor of flying for each passenger mile. My job involves modest air travel, and I average about the same number of flight miles per year as driving miles, so statistically I'm 100x safer in a plane than my car.
rxlawdude
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I agree. It's just that somebody mentioned flying cars up above. That "100x safer" stat includes airline travel with 100x ratio of people
ilots (well trained and often qualified) in planes (well maintained), which wouldn't apply to the everyman flying car scenario. I agree with Elon: "dumb and dangerous". I'd be on board if the pedestrian warning sounded like a Jetson's car, though.
jrwaters1
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It is not false. You can look it up for yourself.
That is what he said. Imagine someone who doesnt perfectly maintain their vehicle and a hub cap comes off. Not a big deal on the ground.. but falling parts in the air is another story...
Exactly .. be serious ... Jetsons flying will never arrive unless the car/plane thing truly flys itself. We can’t even handle drones responsibly. Even then you will have idiots throwing things out the car onto peoples heads. You would have to keep people in sealed boxes with no control at all.
But we already have light aeroplanes. You can get a pilot license and fly. I have one. It's nothing new.
DanCar
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I got 4 disagrees. Curious what the disagrees are about. Tesla said on their website since 2019 that automatic driving in city streets coming by the end of the year. That was part of the deal and Tesla has not delivered.
mikes_fsd
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Only if you ignore the bolded part that Tesla emphasized!View attachment 628263
This text from october 2016 tells, that the bottleneck is the local regulatory approval
Extensive software validation, this is what we are in right now with FSD Beta.
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