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What changes to production Cybertruck ?
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AMPd
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purplewalt
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Sometimes you gotta load up Momma and the kids, taking them shopping, school, church, soccer, etc. If it is raining or very cold, much more convenient/comfortable to do that inside a closed garage.
And sometimes there are also car seat issues with younger kids.
Right, completely understandable.
It's just some folks seem to be missing the point about what this thing is and why its here.
From Twitter, and interchange with Elon. Yes, there will be tweaks and changes.
Interesting Engineering
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Nov 28
An aerospace engineer couldn't wait to find out, so he tested the truck's aerodynamics for himself.
Tesla's Cybertruck Aerodynamics Do Flow Smoothly, as per an CFD Analysis
An aerospace engineer couldn't bear the unanswered question of whether or not Tesla's new Cybertruck's aerodynamics worked well, so he tested it out for himself.
interestingengineering.com
Elon Musk
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With extreme effort, Cybertruck might hit a 0.30 drag coefficient, which would be insane for a truck. Requires tweaking many small details. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient…
Everyday Astronaut
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It’d be safe to assume you can’t lower the drag coefficient without changing the overall shape a fair amount though, right? That flat back and flat nose can’t be great for aerodynamics
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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@Erdayastronaut
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@IntEngineering
Overall shape is good for low drag coefficient. Matters a lot exactly how you trip airflow at edges & guide air around wheels, like an invisible sculpture.
Interesting Engineering
@IntEngineering
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Nov 28
An aerospace engineer couldn't wait to find out, so he tested the truck's aerodynamics for himself.
Tesla's Cybertruck Aerodynamics Do Flow Smoothly, as per an CFD Analysis
An aerospace engineer couldn't bear the unanswered question of whether or not Tesla's new Cybertruck's aerodynamics worked well, so he tested it out for himself.
interestingengineering.com
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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4h
With extreme effort, Cybertruck might hit a 0.30 drag coefficient, which would be insane for a truck. Requires tweaking many small details. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient…
Everyday Astronaut
@Erdayastronaut
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4h
It’d be safe to assume you can’t lower the drag coefficient without changing the overall shape a fair amount though, right? That flat back and flat nose can’t be great for aerodynamics
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Replying to
@Erdayastronaut
and
@IntEngineering
Overall shape is good for low drag coefficient. Matters a lot exactly how you trip airflow at edges & guide air around wheels, like an invisible sculpture.
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It has real bumpers... Doubt the headlights will change Reverse lights are built into the strip... def needs side mirrors and markers.
Ummm dude... I was agreeing with the poster and making a factual statement so relax.
Sunlight
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After my initial shock and bewilderment, I have grown quite partial to the CT. It could replace almost all our vehicles on our 'lifestyle' farm.
It is still too long for our environment (South African 'bakkies' - pick-ups - are far smaller but still look huge on the road!) Width/height most probably manageable but I'd love to see Tesla release the CT with a 5'/5' 6" load bay. I suspect the current design is too big for many countries - I know it was developed to chase the USA market.
My other two concerns are the sharp roofline and the sloping high load bay sides (many people have pointed out the limitations with these. I often have rubbish in the bakkie and then want something out the front of the load bay so I would like to be able to just lean over and not need a stepladder or have to clamber over other stuff!) I appreciate that the design allows for the roller load bay cover so it may be worth the compromise. Fold-down flaps under flying buttresses??!
Also I wonder if a short flat area at the peak of the roofline would greatly 'soften' the looks (and broaden the appeal) - can't believe it would weaken the triangular structure significantly.
I suspect that the 'concept truck' shown was rushed out and some changes are sure between now and production.
It is still too long for our environment (South African 'bakkies' - pick-ups - are far smaller but still look huge on the road!) Width/height most probably manageable but I'd love to see Tesla release the CT with a 5'/5' 6" load bay. I suspect the current design is too big for many countries - I know it was developed to chase the USA market.
My other two concerns are the sharp roofline and the sloping high load bay sides (many people have pointed out the limitations with these. I often have rubbish in the bakkie and then want something out the front of the load bay so I would like to be able to just lean over and not need a stepladder or have to clamber over other stuff!) I appreciate that the design allows for the roller load bay cover so it may be worth the compromise. Fold-down flaps under flying buttresses??!
Also I wonder if a short flat area at the peak of the roofline would greatly 'soften' the looks (and broaden the appeal) - can't believe it would weaken the triangular structure significantly.
I suspect that the 'concept truck' shown was rushed out and some changes are sure between now and production.
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https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-features-missed-details
"On the plus side, the bed does create a nice, rectangular box with no intrusive wheelwell humps. The bed floor, though, will need reworking before it goes into production. Look at the bed of any pickup truck made in the last half century, and you'll see the floor is wavy, not smooth like the Cybertruck's. It's great that you can lay a sheet of plywood or sheetrock flat in the bed of a Cybertruck, but have you ever tried to pick one up when it's lying flat on a smooth concrete floor? Those little grooves milled into the Cybertruck's bed floor won't offer any help getting your fingers under anything heavy, and between the sail panels and the lack of wheelwell humps, there's no way to go at it except from the tailgate.
All of this doesn't even address the fact the truck, as currently designed, runs afoul of many federal vehicle regulations. Even if it's heavy enough to get Class 3 certification (10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight, not great for EV range) and dodge some crash test rules, it'll still need door mirrors and a complete rework of the taillights. Notice how every other pickup truck (and even work vans) mounts its tail lights to the bed, not the tailgate? That's not a trend, that's a law. Tesla's solution in adding a second set of lights that's visible when the tailgate is open is clever, but it's still illegal (this is why the barn doors on the back of a Mini Clubman have cutouts for the fixed taillights)."
"On the plus side, the bed does create a nice, rectangular box with no intrusive wheelwell humps. The bed floor, though, will need reworking before it goes into production. Look at the bed of any pickup truck made in the last half century, and you'll see the floor is wavy, not smooth like the Cybertruck's. It's great that you can lay a sheet of plywood or sheetrock flat in the bed of a Cybertruck, but have you ever tried to pick one up when it's lying flat on a smooth concrete floor? Those little grooves milled into the Cybertruck's bed floor won't offer any help getting your fingers under anything heavy, and between the sail panels and the lack of wheelwell humps, there's no way to go at it except from the tailgate.
All of this doesn't even address the fact the truck, as currently designed, runs afoul of many federal vehicle regulations. Even if it's heavy enough to get Class 3 certification (10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight, not great for EV range) and dodge some crash test rules, it'll still need door mirrors and a complete rework of the taillights. Notice how every other pickup truck (and even work vans) mounts its tail lights to the bed, not the tailgate? That's not a trend, that's a law. Tesla's solution in adding a second set of lights that's visible when the tailgate is open is clever, but it's still illegal (this is why the barn doors on the back of a Mini Clubman have cutouts for the fixed taillights)."
If you put in an 4x8 sheet of plywood, it's going to stick out the back anyway so the flatness of the bed doesn't matter as 1.5' will be over the tailgate which angles down..
Prototypes are often shown without mirrors, so that's not a big deal and there's little point in calling a prototype illegal. It's not as if Tesla doesn't know the current rules.
Sorry, but it's annoying that everybody and his brother says "it's illegal" when it's still a prototype.
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Are you 100% sure about that? Look at how the Bolt deals with it. Brake lights on the lift gate, and when the lift gate is opened the lights "move" down to the bumper. Essentially the same thing that Tesla showed.
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