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What specs are you planning?

Discussion in 'Hong Kong' started by DITB, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    Presume that HK prices will be US prices plus shipping, what will you get?

    I am thinking of getting the following, with the HK prices I guestimate:

    85kWh non-Signature, non-Performance basic, around 695K HKD, plus


    • Silver Metallic (+6,500 HKD), roof same colour (no sunroof)
    • 19" wheels
    • Gray leather upholstery (+16,100 HKD)
    • Double chargers (+13,100 HKD)
    • Tech Package (+32,700 HKD)
    • Air Suspension (+19,600 HKD)
    • Parking Sensors (+4,400 HKD)
    • Ultra HiFi (+21,800 HKD)
    • 7 seats (+21,800 HKD)
    • Safety/Alarm (+3,600 HKD)
    • Rear shelf / luggage cover (+2,200 HKD)
    • Misc paperwork and fees, mandatory (+5,000 HKD)

    Total estimated price 841,800 HKD

    I might shave off the sound system, as the only saving I would be willing to sacrifice. I could do without double chargers, I might never need them in HK.

    I might add internal lights at around 8,700 HKD.

    I would love performance and performance plus, red callipers, 21" tires and so on, but I think I'll stop at the list above.

    I do NOT intend to get the sunroof, as I think it would make the car use more energy on air con (comment?)

    Source: http://www.teslamotors.com/da_DK/models/design

    Subtract 25% sales tax, change DKK to HKD. Total factor is around 1.14, so just take whatever price you see and multiply by 1.14. Good luck with the Danish language!
     
  2. 772

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    I think you will get more accurate pricing by starting from the US price... here's a screenshot of your build:

    NuEjHDO.png

    A couple things to note:

    1. The base price of the car is 81,070 USD = 630,000 HKD

    2. Twin chargers cost $1500 USD, but they come bundled with the proprietary HPWC unit, for a package cost of $2700. Assume you just need to add $1500 if you don't need the HPWC unit.

    3. The Security system is not offered in the US. It may not be offered in HK. If it is, I guess it would cost about 3600 HKD like you said.

    So, ignoring the Security system and adding twin chargers, and removing the $7500 US Federal tax credit, the cost of your build is 96,570 USD, or 750,000 HKD

    That's the easy part. From there, you will have to add on any shipping fees, customs tax, luxury tax, FRT, and any VAT in HK. The shipping cost of the Model S to China is 3,600 USD, and I assume something very similar would apply for HK. I'm not sure what the other taxes would be for HK.

    - - - Updated - - -

    In case you don't have access to the US prices, here is a list (in USD):

    Base Model S 60kWh: $69,900
    Destination and Doc Fee: $1,170

    Options
    Battery:
    85kWh: $10,000 (includes supercharging and 19 inch tire upgrade)
    85kWh Performance: $23,500 (includes supercharging, 19 inch tire upgrade, carbon fiber spoiler, Red brake calipers, Alcantara headliner)

    Paint: $750 Metallic, $1,500 multicoat (red, pearl white). Solid white, solid black included at no cost.
    Panoramic Roof: $2,500
    19 in cyclone wheels: $2,500
    21 in turbine wheels: $4,500

    Interior:
    Standard Leather seats: $1,500
    Performance leather seats: $2,500
    Wood Decor: $650 (3 choices)
    Carbon fiber Decor: $800
    Yacht floor: $650

    Performance Plus: $6,500 (requires P85, Tech Package, Air suspension, 21 inch wheels)
    Twin chargers: $1,500
    Supercharger: $2,000 (included in 85kWh models)

    Tech package: $3,750
    Air suspension: $2,250
    Parking sensors: $500
    Fog Lamps: $500
    Ultra High Fidelity Sound: $2,500
    Extended Nappa Leather Trim: $2,500
    Alcantara headliner: $1,500
    Rear Facing seats: $2,500
    Premium interior lighting: $1,000
    Cold weather package: $750
    Parcel Shelf: $250
    19 inch tire upgrade: $1,000 (included in 85kWh models)
    Paint armor: $950
     
  3. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    The Danish price includes overseas shipping and 25% sales tax. I don't know about other markets, but for sure, the US price has a lower shipping price than Hong Kong.

    Shipping fees are hence already included in the price I mention. FRT is exempt until end March 14 (and we all hope for an extension), and there is no VAT here.

    That is why I think those prices I mentioned are going to be pretty close. But we will soon see - I hope you are right, as you are roughly 70,000 HKD lower than me in your estimate.
     
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    It sounds like there is no import tax or sales tax in HK? If so I would expect your price to just be the US price + shipping (about $3600 USD)
     
  5. Alipapa

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    The children seat is not coming to HK, confirmed by Kennith last week...:redface:
     
  6. lx3h

    lx3h Charged.hk TSLA Grp Rep

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    Ooh, that's disappointing. I was planning to get them, oh well, more space and cash then

     
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    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    And there is supposedly no way it can be installed later - probably needs to be put in during production?

    I don't really need it - now - but some times you might need to haul more than 5. Also, about the resale value of the car, I would imagine 7 seats is easier to sell than 5.
     
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    lx3h Charged.hk TSLA Grp Rep

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    I think so, but how sure are we that Hong Kong Model S isn't getting the reverse seats?
     
  9. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    Not sure until we see what they put on the website.

    Actually, even on the HK Tesla Motors site, you can see the specs:

    http://www.teslamotors.com/en_HK/models/features#/interior

    And it clearly says "5 + 2" about a third from the bottom.

    So what is that forum user "Alipapa" writes above, that

    "The children seat is not coming to HK, confirmed by Kennith last week..."
     
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    Thats what Kennith told me when I brought my friend for a test drive.
     
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    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    It's strange, as the HK Tesla site clearly states "5 + 2". I wonder which one is wrong, and if there is really no child seat option - why? Legal issue?
     
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    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    #12 DITB, Feb 10, 2014
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    Bad news: As rumoured, I cannot seem to select 7 seats (legislation issues?)
    Good news: Prices are lower than I thought. (The screen shot is not the same config as my original guestimate)

    Next up: Financing - Neither HSBC nor Hang Seng seem to have any particular car finance, so it's time to start shopping around!

    Tesla Model S config.png

     
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    lx3h Charged.hk TSLA Grp Rep

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    Thanks mate, I will put your news onto my thread
     
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    Thanks for posting this... I was wondering when this would be released. Turns out I was pretty close with my price predictions ;) !

    Will keep an eye on the rear seat issue... any updates on FRT waiver extension?
     
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    Thank you! Got the email too! The price is lower than my expectation as well! just checking any low interest rate plan in the market now :)

     
  16. markwj

    markwj Moderator, Asia Pacific

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    I've posted a quick poll here:

    Rear Facing Child Seats for Hong Kong

    I'd appreciate it if Model S reservation holders in Hong Kong could tick the box most appreciate (whether you want the rear facing child seats or not).
     
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    Does anyone know the $5,800 Subzero Weather Package is for if you want to add heating to the rear 3 seats (as well as the front 2 seats), or does the Model S originally come with heating seats for the front row without adding the package? Not that I'll add it to my config, but it is rather cold in HK these days... haha
     
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    Yes, heated front seats are standard, no additional cost.
     
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    I'm considering if Dual Chargers ($11,600) and HPWC ($9,300) are worth getting at all...

    Considering it is unlikely that I'll be driving over 100km (probably no more than 50km in fact) every day, using 220V 13A or 32A outlets which seems to be the norm across HK (i.e. most CLP/HK Electric charging stations, residential or other public outlets), the most I'll get from these is around 7kW, which is still less than the 10kW capability of the standard Single Charger. 7kW means around 41km/h charging rate, so it shouldn't take more than 2 to 3 hours to fill up the Model S if I charge it every night without the Dual Charger/HPWC combo option.

    I realise some charging stations out there do use CHAdeMO which gives out 50kW, but from what I understood they all use DC, just like Tesla's Superchargers, which would bypass the onboard charger anyway. Plus, Tesla will be building Supercharger Network in HK (fantastic!).
     
  20. lx3h

    lx3h Charged.hk TSLA Grp Rep

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    Do let us know when you have found financing.
     

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