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Yes 70 plus however much the buffer isYour 90KWh battery is down to 70KWH?
Yes 70 plus however much the buffer is
Thanks, they all keep saying normal, normal, normal. I'm trying to decide if we want to trade it and get a Model X or keep it and add a Model X.You may have to argue with Tesla Service, but something is wrong with your battery. That sounds like 1 or more modules are out.
There are threads here on the forum of people who saw unusual degradation like you have. They took it into service and initially were told they were unlucky and it was just unusually bad degradation, but when they got Tesla to actually do some diagnostics they found something had gone bad in the battery and got it fixed under warranty.
Thanks, they all keep saying normal, normal, normal. I'm trying to decide if we want to trade it and get a Model X or keep it and add a Model X.
It has to go in for another leaking Pano roof, what do I need to tell them to look for so they actually check the right stuff instead of brushing me off as usual?
2018 ☰ LR
2/16/18 90% 282 @620miles
3/23/18 90% 280.59 @2939.598miles
4/7/18 100% 313.92 @3824.724miles
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2017 MS75
3/18/18 90% 215 @25000miles
3/31/18 90% 215.18 @25593.867miles
4/7/18 100% 239.93 @25957.068miles
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So they actually replaced the entire pack, rather than loaning me one while mine is rebuilt.
I was told it was "New". I asked twice about that, as I expected a refurb. I was told new.
Invoice, however, says:
ASSY,HV BATTERY,S3BB,REMAN,MDLS
(1088815-01-D)
So I suspect service folks simply meant it wasn't a rebuild of mine.
It does appear to be a D-pack however. My previous was a "-B" pack.
Charging it to 90% now to see what it does...
I suspect so... I believe they are all remans...I had a main battery replacement on my 2013 S. I got the same battery here in Norway now! The invoice says so, havent seen it yet. Struggle to find time to pick it up this week.
So I am getting a refurbished 85 battery then?
What's the lowest you've taken your battery down to? I took delivery on Pearl Harbor Day (12/7/16) and my 90% was 263-265 (winter to summer) up until April 2018 when I had around 12000 miles. I drove it down to 8% once (strong winds on a road trip) at 13000 miles and then it only showed 262 at 90%. Now a couple of months later, it's only 258 at 16000 miles. Originally, I thought I got very lucky as well since my 90% didn't change for a year and a half. Now I'm wondering if maybe it just hadn't balanced itself so it kept showing the original 263-265. I suppose I should try taking it down really low again and then charge it up to see if it makes any difference.My car is now 2 years old. Took delivery on D-Day 2016.
On day 1 my 90% was 269 miles. Just checked in the garage a minute ago and it's 269 miles. I got very lucky in the battery department! It goes down a few miles in the winter, but comes back to 268-269 in the spring.
Nov 2015 prefacelift S70. Just rolled over 20,000 miles. My 90% today is 218 miles. No noticeable degradation from day one (216 miles at 90%, which is the lowest, versus highest 90% at 220).Pre-refresh Dec 2015 70D, after 2.5 yrs 26,400km
My latest 90% charge = 346km Rated (i.e. 215mi) = same as day 1 - I’ve only seen the 90% vary by at most +/- a couple kms
I took delivery of my MS90D in December 2016. I was not showing a drop until around 8K miles. At the time of the drop I was driving down to < 10% then Supercharging. I did this once a week. I noticed each week I lost 1 RM. After a while I figured out if it hurts then STOP! Since they I've kept it >30%. It has been about 9 months and in that time I've not lost any RM.What's the lowest you've taken your battery down to? I took delivery on Pearl Harbor Day (12/7/16) and my 90% was 263-265 (winter to summer) up until April 2018 when I had around 12000 miles. I drove it down to 8% once (strong winds on a road trip) at 13000 miles and then it only showed 262 at 90%. Now a couple of months later, it's only 258 at 16000 miles. Originally, I thought I got very lucky as well since my 90% didn't change for a year and a half. Now I'm wondering if maybe it just hadn't balanced itself so it kept showing the original 263-265. I suppose I should try taking it down really low again and then charge it up to see if it makes any difference.
Due to the spacing of Superchargers that I use, I often have to take it down to 15% - 20%. I was surprised when I did the drive and got down to 8% but it was really windy that day. I did the same drive a week later and arrived with about 22% on the same stretch.I took delivery of my MS90D in December 2016. I was not showing a drop until around 8K miles. At the time of the drop I was driving down to < 10% then Supercharging. I did this once a week. I noticed each week I lost 1 RM. After a while I figured out if it hurts then STOP! Since they I've kept it >30%. It has been about 9 months and in that time I've not lost any RM.
You could say I've lost RMs, but don't see it since it is not rebalancing. I believe either driving down < 10% or SCing from this low level, and the resulting heat build up, is bad for the battery. Particularly for the 90 series with its new chemistry. If at all possible I will never take my battery below 20% again.
What's the lowest you've taken your battery down to? I took delivery on Pearl Harbor Day (12/7/16) and my 90% was 263-265 (winter to summer) up until April 2018 when I had around 12000 miles. I drove it down to 8% once (strong winds on a road trip) at 13000 miles and then it only showed 262 at 90%. Now a couple of months later, it's only 258 at 16000 miles. Originally, I thought I got very lucky as well since my 90% didn't change for a year and a half. Now I'm wondering if maybe it just hadn't balanced itself so it kept showing the original 263-265. I suppose I should try taking it down really low again and then charge it up to see if it makes any difference.
Do you follow KmanAuto on YouTube? He has a 90D and regularly reports his RM. He is now at 270 RM for 100% charge (works out to 243 at 90%) at 55K miles. He drives a lot and uses SC a lot. He often complains at how quickly his mileage has dropped. I mentioned to him, if he was up to an experiment, to try keeping his RMs > 30%, if possible, and see what happens. He never replied.Due to the spacing of Superchargers that I use, I often have to take it down to 15% - 20%. I was surprised when I did the drive and got down to 8% but it was really windy that day. I did the same drive a week later and arrived with about 22% on the same stretch.
I've seen some of his videos, including the ones where he talks about his battery degradation. I think his is slightly older than mine and he has one of the first 90 kWh batteries. I've seen the ranges on those older 90 kWh batteries is a lot worse than later 90 kWh batteries. Honestly, I wasn't concerned about mine for the first year and a half since my 90% rated range hadn't changed at all. Then right around 13000, just shy of a year and a half, I saw the 1% degradation and didn't mind too much. Fast forward another month and 3000 more miles and it's down another 1% or more. I'll keep my eye on it but not too concerned just yet.Do you follow KmanAuto on YouTube? He has a 90D and regularly reports his RM. He is now at 270 RM for 100% charge (works out to 243 at 90%) at 55K miles. He drives a lot and uses SC a lot. I mentioned to him, if he was up to an experiment, to try keeping his RMs > 30%, if possible, and see what happens. He never replied.
Seems in general all cars eventually degrade about 5%, then it flattens out... My car is now coming up on it's 5th birthday, almost 90k miles, and it's been at about 5% total degradation for the last 40k miles or so.I've seen some of his videos, including the ones where he talks about his battery degradation. I think his is slightly older than mine and he has one of the first 90 kWh batteries. I've seen the ranges on those older 90 kWh batteries is a lot worse than later 90 kWh batteries. Honestly, I wasn't concerned about mine for the first year and a half since my 90% rated range hadn't changed at all. Then right around 13000, just shy of a year and a half, I saw the 1% degradation and didn't mind too much. Fast forward another month and 3000 more miles and it's down another 1% or more. I'll keep my eye on it but not too concerned just yet.